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Scuderia Ferrari F138

I voted Honda, mainly because my memories of it are Senna/McLaren not terrible livery works cars.

Was a good time

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"Sometimes in your everyday life, you should say the right thing. But the wrong thing is funnier." Ed Byrne

"I'm the one that's got to die when it's time for me to die, so let me live my life the way I want to" Jimi Hendrix

As far as the available choices I went with Ford, but if an American company was to make an F1 plant I would think it'd be Chevy.

But since Fiat owns Chrysler now maybe a customer team could re-brand the Ferrari engine as Dodge like Red Bull is doing calling their Renault engine as Infinity.

I chose Ferrari, but it would be a tough choice if I'd had to pick a second, between Honda and Mercedes.

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Scuderia Ferrari F138

Really? I wasn't aware they had called it Infinity.

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Scuderia Ferrari F138

I am looking forward to the turbos in 2014. These V8s are great, love the sound, but we know exactly what these sound like so although I always love listening to the current engines I am looking forward to a new sound in 2014.

I voted for Cosworth. With 176 win it is one of the most successful engine to have Powered some of the early f1 cars. But yea unfortunately they are selling the business. Hope whoever buys it revives it. I want to see the old glory days of Cosworth built by Keith Duckworth back.

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Ferrari engines right now, can't remember the last time one failed

Honda for reliability

Alfa Romeo, If not Porsche, if not i'll settle for a Honda

I still associate BMW as a very powerful engine since at one point of the V10 era, it was the most powerful engine.

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Do you think that the speed is good at this point? - It doesn’t matter how much behind the others we are at this point. The car will anyway be rebuilt before Australia. Now we just drive around.

The Ford Double Four Valve.
How can anything else come close to it? EVER!

I have a soft spot for Honda too. They were triers.

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I have nothing to offer but blood, oil, gears, and sweat.

2010 Malaysian GP with Alonso I think, well I remember that there was a lot of smoke pouring out the back of it

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Two years without breaking down isn't bad though...

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"Sometimes in your everyday life, you should say the right thing. But the wrong thing is funnier." Ed Byrne

"I'm the one that's got to die when it's time for me to die, so let me live my life the way I want to" Jimi Hendrix

Mercedes for me Should've been Honda but they've been out of the game for too long now.

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“Speed has never killed anyone. Suddenly becoming stationary, that's what gets you.”


― Jeremy Clarkson

Renault. They say F1 wouldn't be the same without Ferrari but I find it hard to imagine F1 without Renault engines.

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In response to budget cuts, the light at the end of the tunnel is being switched-off today.
--Aron Vigushin

This video seems to sum that up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cAsouky1Nc

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"I don't make mistakes, I make prophecies that immediately turn out to be wrong."

Nothing for the available choices. I would choose Climax as my prefer engine provider.

No only is it a great name for an engine it was also the enigne used by Jim Clark's Lotus in his winning championships years of 63 & 65.

Other option would the TAG turbos used in the 80's by McLaren.

Would not have any basis for my engine selection, other than the fact that Renault, Mercedes and Ferrari are at the top now.
BMW built great engines for Williams and then themslves 2000-2009.

Good topic by the OP; the engine is a piece of equipment that is almost completely ignored in modern F1. Pity the manufacturers do not get more publicity; it is more difficult to design/build engines than the rest of the car: so few engine manufacturers vs chassis /car manufacturers.

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Yeah, well, honestly with the engine freeze there's not much new to talk about, since the engine is ~95% the same 2009 onwards...the only things changing being oils and engine mapping (sometimes) and similar tangential effects...what could we discuss about the new and innovative ...I don't know... hydrostatic liquid oxygen valves of the engines? what new valves?

Now, if they would allow yearly development, that would give us (and the world) something to talk about day in day out. The way we talk about the turbo V6 ...and so far we've only seen some lousy computer-generated photos of them.


Back to the vote, I went with Honda, due to the Senna days. Although Renault deserves a big mention too.

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Olivier Panis fan.
...and also Jenson Button fan.

Voted BMW, mainly because they were around when I started following F1 closely. The Kubica + BMW-Sauber combo was who I cheered for back then.

IMO, in hindsight Williams should have never let BMW go.

Ferrari employed former designer from Toyota. Toyota engines were known for being bulletproof and now they same person is responsible for Ferrari engines.

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Any old sap can pull teeth from a dead crocodile.
It takes a man to pull teeth from a live one.

That's Japanese engineering for you. Come to think of it I can't remember when I've ever seen a road Toyota break down.

Personally, that's what makes the Ferrari my current engine of choice. This year, and probably the next few years, reliability was/will be the name of the game across the board, so a healthy engine is an indispensable advantage.

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"Sometimes in your everyday life, you should say the right thing. But the wrong thing is funnier." Ed Byrne

"I'm the one that's got to die when it's time for me to die, so let me live my life the way I want to" Jimi Hendrix

I had a very hard time deciding. Almost all of those manufacturers have had their day in the sun. I almost voted for Ford, especially with Alan Mullaly as CEO. But in the end I picked Ferrari-- I think its the best current engine.

Correct, you cannot beat Japanese engineering in terms of reliability. Especially with one of the guys from Toyota looking over.

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Scuderia Ferrari F138

My previous-previous company car was a Toyota Avensis. Over the course of 2 years, I've had:
- a broken turbo hose (don't know if that is a correct name) - caused a big power loss and a ridiculous amount of smoke when I gassed it
- broken airconditioning
- broken speaker
- clutch gone

Not all that bad but it has been one of the lesser reliable cars I've had.

Quite simply, a Ferrari engine. It's entered every F1 GP to have ever run. Says a lot.

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"You know the score.. Alright that's enough.. You're not going to get any points for that.."

"But Satisfaction!"

Sebastian Vettel
World Driver's Champion
2010,2011,2012.

quite an iconic broom i must say

I bought an X reg Celica just before Christmas and was talking to the dealer about this, so take the advice with a pinch of salt to account for his bias. He said the Toyotas made before 2005(ish) had the famous bulletproof reliability of which you speak. After that they're only about as good as any other car, which may explain your Avensis.

Maybe they put their good engineers into their F1 program and the road cars suffered as a result?

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Official Kamui Kobayashi Fanboy

maybe they employed the old Rover staff xD

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"Sometimes in your everyday life, you should say the right thing. But the wrong thing is funnier." Ed Byrne

"I'm the one that's got to die when it's time for me to die, so let me live my life the way I want to" Jimi Hendrix

I dont think its that Toyota and Mazda have lost anything, but that other cars have become just as good.
The only one that may have lost out is Nissan, as Renault took them over and their reputation is now shot due to poor electrics

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I have nothing to offer but blood, oil, gears, and sweat.

I don't know, didn't the Toyota president issue a properly humiliating statement after that run of recalls they had recently(ish). I'm sure he said something about how they'd expanded too quickly in recent years and allowed standards to slip.

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They call me William The Pleaser
I sold opium, fireworks and lead
Now I'm telling my troubles to strangers
When the shadows get long I'll be dead

cough* Brabham *cough
Without them Nelson Piquet would have never won two of his 3 WDCs. The other came from Honda power. In fact, he never won the most GPs in each of his WDC years, just had reliable cars that got him to the end and occasionally he won.

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"We can not drive slower, just to make the races more exciting." Alain Prost

I would want to see Cosworth come back with a developed engine and I wish they did have more money. Many people forget that they did have the most powerful engine in 2006 in that Williams and the packaging on it was fantastic. It was just fragile as all hell, but I still wonder what happened after the RPM freeze. It seemed like Cosworth lost all momentum. The engine had about 850-860 in qualy trim... If I'm not mistaken.

I want to say Ferrari because I know this season they really did work on the packaging this year. Judging by the tight packaging of of the Sauber and Ferrari this year. It would be nice to say better late than never.

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Felipe Massa fan/supporter since 2002 and counting!

I voted for BMW. Despite their modest F1 record, I have this feeling in my bones that under a suitable engineer, matching car design and funds to go with it, the BMW can be a front ranking F1 engine.

Likewise, I feel that the great success of Renault engines in F1 is due largely to them suiting Newey's innovative designs more than any other make.

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Vettel / Raikkonen / Button

...Toyota...

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Use every man after his desert, and who should scape whipping? Use them after your own honour and dignity.

Maria de Villota

The best name for an engine has to go to Megatron