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PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 2:24 pm 
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Roberts Clio s1600 is all ready to run at Rally Ronde Alta Valtidone, he will not race today, its all for rehabilitation this time with regular stick shift on right side. - All the best Kubi !!

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^ yeah...but we will know times of Kub?


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 5:12 pm 
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^ yeah...but we will know times of Kub?


No idea, only few photos showed up so far.

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He is drinking red bull. I smell something in 2014 when Webber retires :lol:


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 10:28 am 
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Sarhan wrote:


It's from Subaru, not Renault, isn't it?


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 10:39 am 
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DeeSee2 wrote:
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It's from Subaru, not Renault, isn't it?


It's at Bassano, so Subaru.


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Robert set to drive in Citroen C4 WRC

The Rally di Como will take place in Italy over November 15-17 with the Rallye du Var - the final round of the French Tarmac Rally Championship - taking place the following weekend.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 7:28 pm 
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So its official http://www.citroen-wrc.com/en/


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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/20351833

Short video on Kubica's rehabilitation and limitation of his arm at the moment.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 12:14 pm 
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Turns out I was right about him bluffing all this time.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/20351833


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Turns out I was right about him bluffing all this time.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/20351833


Bluffing on what?


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Does he need more time to heal or is he permanently done with single seaters?


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Does he need more time to heal or is he permanently done with single seaters?

I think nobody knows yet. I would love to see him in F1 as I'm not big fan of rallying, but I'm aware that his chances of return to F1 are slim at the moment.

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ManojHS wrote:
Does he need more time to heal or is he permanently done with single seaters?


He officially ruled out a 2013 F1 comeback however it's still possible in 2014 or later.


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http://telly.com/9OF4Z

That's just scary.


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http://telly.com/9OF4Z

That's just scary.



Can I just say, What a fooking daft place to let spectators stand.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 6:02 pm 
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Johnston wrote:

Can I just say, What a fooking daft place to let spectators stand.


Indeed, not so clever, but spectators should have some common sense though.


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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVCJpHqfSxo

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Flying under the radar

http://www.gpupdate.net/en/f1-news/2873 ... paign=news

Keeping the faith...


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 12:13 am 
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Robert Kubica won the race rally Trofeo di Como in Italy - Congrats Robert...

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Yes congrats to Robert and judging from this article he still has his eyes on a return to F1
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/104399

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 8:50 am 
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Timing/results for those interested in his rally (rehab) campaign

http://www.ffsa.org/res_rallye.php?id=1 ... Course=ral


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MaGiK wrote:
Just watched interview with Rob before Du Var.
He said he expects that Fredy Loix will be on different level since he has much more experience and lives there (so he knows those roads very well).
He still doesnt know where he will be driving next year but he hopes everything will be clear by x-mas.
In other interview he said that for sure it wont be WRC as he lacks experience. He also dont see himself in WTCC.
It seems that it might be between ERC and DTM. Or perhaps Le Mans.


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Timing/results for those interested in his rally (rehab) campaign

http://www.ffsa.org/res_rallye.php?id=1 ... Course=ral


^^^^^^So far so good!

p.s sad to see the other thread run fife with 'ifs and buts' while his official thread runs dormant.


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6_Tenths wrote:
MaGiK wrote:
Just watched interview with Rob before Du Var.
He said he expects that Fredy Loix will be on different level since he has much more experience and lives there (so he knows those roads very well).
He still doesnt know where he will be driving next year but he hopes everything will be clear by x-mas.
In other interview he said that for sure it wont be WRC as he lacks experience. He also dont see himself in WTCC.
It seems that it might be between ERC and DTM. Or perhaps Le Mans.


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Timing/results for those interested in his rally (rehab) campaign

http://www.ffsa.org/res_rallye.php?id=1 ... Course=ral


^^^^^^So far so good!

p.s sad to see the other thread run fife with 'ifs and buts' while his official thread runs dormant.



You mean leading by 45sec? Pff....big deal ;)


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1m25s allready lol


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MaGiK wrote:
1m25s allready lol


Bring on LOEB !!! :twisted:

But seriously...I wonder how Kubica would look like against Sebastien LOEB on tarmac? Because on gravel he would have no chance...but tarmac? Could be interesting!


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Lets not make him world champion allready lol.
Even Robert himself said that if he decide commit his future with rallying, the first 2-3 years would be just learning without anticipating any results.
But man...those results shows his talent and that iin future he could really be competetive in WRC series.


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MaGiK wrote:
Lets not make him world champion allready lol.


Nobody makes him WC ;) We all know his strong points and weak points. He is good on tarmac but on gravel he sucks. I do not see anything outrageous in my question about him competing against LOEB but on the tarmac(not gravel)


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Remember Loebs going part time.

Bob champion, with the current field minus loeb I wouldn't bet against it.

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Johnston wrote:
Remember Loebs going part time.

Bob champion, with the current field minus loeb I wouldn't bet against it.


And what do you think about Bob's speed on tarmac? Was LOIX Freddy any serious driver that could give us idea of true Kubica's speed? I am not rally fan so I just do not know...is Loeb really out of reach on tarmac?


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Johnston buddy, you know few things about rallying.
What'd you say about today's Kubica who drives almost one handed and leads Freddy Loix in his home (literally) rally by 1,25 min.
That's some talent + spirit, huh?

edit: I just heard he says he "wasn't pushing 100% 'cause it's slippery..."


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Gee, it was so close for me to be in there in Var this weekend... :(


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Sarhan wrote:
Johnston buddy, you know few things about rallying.
What'd you say about today's Kubica who drives almost one handed and leads Freddy Loix in his home (literally) rally by 1,25 min.
That's some talent + spirit, huh?


It looks good.

BUt (theres always abut ain't ther :P )

I've been trying to find the championship regs to find out if their is any official suppliers. That being no registered Bob wouldn't have to abide too. Unfortunately my French is a bit fairy cakes. (non existent)

Remember Loix wasn't exactly top grade in the WRC and he's out in an old 307. IIRC is a 2005 car at the youngest. 4 Speed box in some of them too :lol: :lol:

"Home advantage " can be a bit over rated too. You can be kicked off some rallies if you get found driving on the stages within a certain time frame unless on an official reccee and yes organisers will have the odd guy doing a "patrol" looking for known drivers, if you have a reason too be on them it's usually prudent tolet the organisers know before hand. Thats before you take in that the stages are usually not very popular roads. For instance I know a guy who quite literally doing a rally in his back yard everyone was doing the usual "Oh aye you'll do alright it's only 5 miles from your house" Truth was he had never been down them in his life because there was never a reason too because there was nothing down them but old farms.

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Fair enough. Still, by all means, he's a disabled person ATM so I'm VERY impressed.
As I said it many times before: all this is a bonus. He was near to losing his hand after all.


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Even if we assume that Robert's lead is down to car advantage (a big part of it is, not doubt), Loix is a very experienced and fast (yeah, not the fastest, I know) driver so "matching" him having as little experience as Robert has is a proper achievment imho. With experience (and progress in rehabilitation) there is probably a lot of room for improvement.

I think we may get excited a bit (to quote one particular rally fan) at this point :P

BTW I've seen a quote from Loix that he knows these roads very well because he drives on them often and trains (on his bike IIRC) on them as well.

BTW2 Robert was rumored to be doing the best times in the Clio when he was the zero car a few weeks ago :)

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Also another thing to note is as far as championships go, the other guy didn't have to beat Kubica for points if he's not registered. So no point racing him and risking the off. As far as the championship goes he maybe still "won" .

It's something that happens the odd time here. Someone will enter their local round of the international championship and win it. But the guy in second thinking of a championship won't chase, they'll be happy to take second in the rally which is 1st in the championship and take the points rather than risk binning it. Sometimes unless the guy is well known they won't even get so much as a passing mention on the coverage :? .

Other oddities that can happen is for the championship they might have a spec fuel or tyre. If your not registered for the championship you are not bound by this. An example would be a few years ago the British rally Championship had to use Tesco 99 octane petrol. But if you just entered the rally in the same class you could use high octane stuff instead. Or indeed two championships using the same rally can have different regs. That has happened when the British and Irish have used the same rallies.

A few things to consider before people get too excited.

Mighty result all the same :thumbup:

All valid points. The second guy said he wasn't pushing when he had a big enough lead over third. But on other hand Kubica also had no reason to push - no championship to win, a huge lead etc. He also said he was rather cautious. So it kinda evens itself out :)

As for the tires etc, we don't know. It's possible. But the facts are that most of the time Robert was on the wrong tire (like slightly cut "slicks" on rain). Reports from people who were on site and close suggested that he often had worse tires compund/type than his rivals. I think that this would nullyfy any real advantage from having better tires in right conditions.


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Day 2 to Kubica. Let's hope he keeps on the straight and narrow for the final day!


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"Not only Robert's pure speed is for me a big impression - says the head of the Citroen junior team .
Benoit Nogier drew attention to the other assets of Robert Kubica.
After second day of the Rally du Var Robert Kubica has scored the same OS-like victory and leads at an incredible advantage 5 minutes and 13 seconds.
His progress closely watching the best chefs in the world rally team. - Speed is not everything. Much more impressive to me, as Kubica knows his rallies.
His knowledge on the subject is impressive. And how that information is used in practice - said Nogier. - Even more surprising to me how he can dispense rate.
Go as fast as possible can many drivers, but to control the transit time, that's something else. For example, this morning in advance Robert assumed that the first OS-ie go slowly and carefully. And so he did, and yet he won with a few advantages. And this is just a big piece - the Frenchman added. 
Nogier also points out that it is not pure speed is the most important thing in racing. - Sebastien Loeb after all, was not always the fastest. Other drivers also won special stages. His strength is his pace and managed. That's how the process information and how to adapt to changing conditions"


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globi wrote:
"Not only Robert's pure speed is for me a big impression - says the head of the Citroen junior team .
Speed is not everything. Much more impressive to me, as Kubica knows his rallies.
His knowledge on the subject is impressive.


Nothing new. For his fans Kubica has been always known to have impressive mechanical knowledge and thinking ;) After all - after each race he had arm long list of things that should be change in the car in order to improve it ;)

Aart from that - Kubica is out of rally. Crashed.


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Repors say that it was a co-driver error. The car burned down, but the crew is OK.

Some photos (there were some dirt sections):
http://www.rallye-sport.fr/photos-rallye-du-var-2012/

Some videos:
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xvcx4z ... ape-2_auto
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1SiRGyaFgg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qf_Zcl9o60 (Loix's damaged car can be seen here)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pi9NrhO2hY

(no from the accident)


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