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Lol no, common fallacy, you don't need a "better" car to beat Hamilton, Button has beaten him in the same car already.

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Can you read? "So, if I understand this correctly. Hamilton is 1.1 seconds faster than Vettel in same machinery, but Vettel has been able to win by having a better car? Ok, I'll take that."
Hopefully Johnstone you'll see this and understand what I mean by saying that "you're just as bad as we are."

Yeah I know, Alien, you're generally a good poster, didn't mean to sound aggressive. I just got off the phone with British Gas because they were billing me as if I was running a 24hour wind tunel in my house. So was a little vexed before I had even read anything!

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Really because since the Lap has been aired I haven't actually commented on Lewis or indeed the lap.

I have commented on OB1s LHD idea, and asked about was it really identical machinery. Not least because I believe TG has two cars that have been ragged silly and mothballed for 6months plus. Now my posts in that vain have been deliberately ambiguous enough that the differences could have worked in Vets favour rather than the assumed dig at Lewis.

The rest has been taking the piss out of this notion the TG Lap is in some way a proper motorsport event.

And by the way my lot dropped the "e" and kept the "t" when they swam the channel.

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Disclaimer: The above post maybe tongue in cheek.

"I thought I'd get your theories, mock them, then embrace my own. The usual."

Oh calm your beans you're coming across like mother goose, nobody is taking this seriously.

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"I have commented on OB1s LHD idea, and asked about was it really identical machinery."
From my post:
You only comment negatively on the comments concerning Hamilton even though you're a Button fan and not a Vettel fan.

Now, when you comment, your only goal is to denounce Hamilton.

Not necessarily from this thread (even though I don't have to scroll up high to see you make fun of Hamilton, in a thread where we are supposed to discuss his 1.1 second margin to Vettel), but pretty much all my short time here. From days when Hamilton wins, to the days when he has to retire from the lead due to mechanical failure.


I don't get your last joke. But I can tell you one thing about it, When your lot swam the channel, it sure as hell didn't water your arguments.

You're not a real Formula 1 fan!

Can you point out where I have denounced his lap? OR where in deed I have made fun of him in this thread especially since he completed his 1.1 lap?


The last bit wasn't a joke. It was pointing out your spelling error.

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"I thought I'd get your theories, mock them, then embrace my own. The usual."

"What was Lewis doing looking to know he only has a half?" Do you want to to point out where you've denounced his lap?
"So are you saying no changes have been made to the car in the 6months it's been mothballed and the track was an identical condition?"

Would you have pointed that out if Button had driven the lap to this kind of perfection?

"Maybe on the road but I've known guys who have said it took them years when it came to driving at competitive levels to get on Par with themselves in RHD mode and thats with regular events and testing. Loads over here were spending big bucks getting WRCars converted (and at one stage getting the rules changed to allow it) If it was an easy swap I would doubt they would be lobbying the FIA to change the rules and spending the obvious coinage in getting cars converted over whch can be fairly major work.

The gear stick is the small bit the car positioning is the major factor. Your going from running your own ass over the apex on a right hand corner to running the passenger seat over it and vice versa for Lh corners. You have to reset that line of sight as it were . If you ever watch someone on track or stage that hasn't adjusted yet they tend to go wide one way and too tight the other and the Co Driver usually looks a bit nervous"

Is Button also german?

Please, this had to be a spoof thread. PLEASE.....

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it's too funny right? makes you wonder of the intelligence of some.

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Are you the brains behind this spoof thread?

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Great Debate continues....

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As removing all the rule breaking posts will take far too much time and effort at this time of night, I will remind you all that personal insults and trolling are against the rules and warnings will be handed out if you are involved in them. Now please get back on topic.

This sums up your contribution to the thread....

"One thing you must understand, I'm not sure if this fits in your small mind, but the laps with the Suzuki Liana is the only time where they have driven the same machinery around the same track under similar conditions and Hamilton was more than a second faster. This, as I have stated before, doesn't prove that Hamilton is faster in a Formula car, but when Hamilton and Vettel were youngsters they both raced in Formula 3 Euro series. A series where everybody races in the same machinery. Hamilton won the series in his second season by winning 15(16) out of 20 races, including at least one in every track. Vettel finished second behind Paul di Resta in his second season with "only" 4 race wins to his name. This of course proves nothing (for biased Button and Vettel fans), but I just wanted you to know."

"Last year, Hamilton usually was about 0.8 tenths faster than Button in qualifying. An F1 car is much more easier to drive to perfection (for the F1 drivers) than a Suzuki Liana. Even if he's only about 1-2 tenths faster (I'm not saying he is) than Vettel in an F1 car, he might well be over 1-2 tenths faster in a Suzuki Liana.

And BTW, I remember last year, when Vettel set the fastest time. Do you remember what Vettel fans said then? Hypocrites!"



Quotes from my other posts in the thread. Nobody actually thinks that this lap makes Hamilton the fastest driver in F1, we're just using the same trick as you were using. Last year, when Vettel set the fastest times, his fans claimed that this proved that Vettel is the fastest. This including the swedish version of Auto motor and sport.

May I ask how you have come to the conclusion that an F1 car I is easier to drive to perfection than the Liana?

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This is not getting back on topic

can you stop saying that an F1 car is much easier to drive to perfection than a regular car? do you understand how easy it must be for F1 drivers to drive a road car to perfection especially a small one like the Liana which even I can drive to perfection easily?.....anyway some of you need to understand and let it sink in that Top Gear is not any sort of yardstick to judge anything so calm down.

Asking about his belief about an F1 car being easier for them to drive on the limit is surely allowed and moving the topic on!

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but isn't this the 'off topic' board?
(only joking! - just struck me as ironic!)

Back on topic - yes the road car will be proportionately easier to drive at limits than an F1 car. In the latter, split second differences in power/brake application, etc will make massive differences to overall speed and of course the sheer power levels mean that all drivers would be constantly adjusting to 'feel' for the limit. Whereas in the Liana they will probably have their foot on the power all the time (virtually) and dabbing the brakes to take off as little speed as they think they can get away with......concentrating mostly on road/corner positioning?

I imagine it's based on the fact that F1 2012 is an easier game than Gran Turismo

So true ....

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That is on topic, yes. The continued argument about Vettel and Hamilton wasn't though, and that was what my post referred too.

ta.

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I don't know for sure, but that Lewis was 1.1 seconds faster than Vettel should give you an indication. Also Paddy Lowe once answered to the question:
"What's the main difference between Lewis and Jenson?"
"When Lewis gets in the car, he's fast straight away."

In Top Gear you only do 8(?) laps. Do you really expect them to be able to go as fast as possible in that short amount of time compared to the hours they're allowed to do in a F1 car?

OMG.

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@Qwerty: You my friend are funny

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Out of all the threads on all the forums on all the worlds in the observable Universe, this has got to be the most ridiculous.

Keep it going.

In the whole thread, all your arguments have looked like this..... Don't you have the ************ capacity to actually respond to my arguments?

Good to know.

This is how I came to the conclusion Asphalt. Feel free to point out what you disagree with, although I'm sure you won't.

Why are you private messaging me the above Qwertys? I don't know what this means.