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Rate the Trump Presidency so far.
Best President 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Great 4%  4%  [ 1 ]
Good 4%  4%  [ 1 ]
Not Bad 12%  12%  [ 3 ]
Bad 4%  4%  [ 1 ]
Terrible 4%  4%  [ 1 ]
Batsh** Crazy 73%  73%  [ 19 ]
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 19, 2017 11:59 pm 
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Its been over 50 days since Donald J Trump became the 45th President of the United States. What is your rating of him so far?


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Unfortunately I cannot rate him on the scale you have given as I do not know enough about past president's. But from an outsiders perspective, I would like to vote his presidency as 'laughable' he's shown the world how little power the US president actually has! His first executive order, which could not be stopped by other US politicians, was stopped by the courts. He does not seem to be the best diplomat or spikes person for the country on an international scale and was roasted in the politest way possible by the Irish prime minister just last week who pretty much told the world press that Ireland did and does believe in what America stands for, whilst as the same time telling the world that Ireland does not like what Trump appears to stand for

It may get better o er the next 4 years, lets hope so for America's sake.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 2:11 pm 
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Clueless and hypocritical. Is unable to function away from standing in front of a friendly crowd who will eat up whatever he says. Doesn't understand how the government works and is unwilling to learn.

The fact that he believes, and tweets, about any random conspiracy theory regardless of how absurd it sounds to a rational person should be all that needs to be said about him but alas it is not.

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Batfish crazy is almost complimentary to this miserable excuse of a immature bully. If I weren't in the sane "boat", i'd say that those who voted for him are getting just what they deserve. I just hope this country survives him and his flunkies.

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Hope you guys have unplugged your microwaves before these posts...


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It's so depressing that I don't feel any inspired to rate it. :-((


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Blake wrote:
Batfish crazy is almost complimentary to this miserable excuse of a immature bully. If I weren't in the sane "boat", i'd say that those who voted for him are getting just what they deserve. I just hope this country survives him and his flunkies.


I hope he does not make it to the end of the term.

I'm not saying I want him dead, rather that I want his many secrets to come to light so that he can be impeached.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 9:12 am 
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If the investigation into Trump shows clear ties to Russia, would that be enough to get this clown impeached?

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Mr-E wrote:
If the investigation into Trump shows clear ties to Russia, would that be enough to get this clown impeached?

Only if the Republican leaders in congress feel that their own seats would be in jeopardy if they didn't impeach. Despite the way it seems the public as a whole is reacting to this dumpster fire of an administration I don't see the Democrats flipping enough seats in the mid-term elections next year to take back both houses. So we're stuck pinning our hopes on the GOP to put country before party for a change.

Then again Pence is no bargain either so maybe with Trump flailing around spouting conspiracies and getting nothing done is preferable to a stable Pence administration where the Republicans in congress railroad their agenda through.

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The man is a megalomaniac bully. Too divisive to be a leader of a nation.


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The guy tells everyone that he's smart, but he acts like the biggest idiot in public office.

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Blinky McSquinty wrote:
The guy tells everyone that he's smart, but he acts like the biggest idiot in public office.

Have you forgotten about George Bush jr? It's just a different way of acting stupid.

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minchy wrote:
Blinky McSquinty wrote:
The guy tells everyone that he's smart, but he acts like the biggest idiot in public office.

Have you forgotten about George Bush jr? It's just a different way of acting stupid.


Bush Jr never postured to appear smart or brag he was some genius.

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George W. never made a speech with multiple "Only I can [fix said problem]" he just made all of the same type of campaign promises that offer vague allusions to how they're going to change things that politicians do.

Trump didn't have any position papers on his campaign website. Only his promises from speeches and talking points in written form. Anybody who was expecting actual policy to come from a Trump White House was fooling themselves. Consider the fact that his answer to a question about his intelligence was "I have a good brain." That's not paraphrasing, that is the actual quote. When combined with "I know a lot of words. I have the best words." Well all I can do right now is shake my head and yell at the TV.

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You can always watch some House of Cards if you need a toned-down version of the utter joke the American presidency has become.

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RaggedMan wrote:
George W. never made a speech with multiple "Only I can [fix said problem]" he just made all of the same type of campaign promises that offer vague allusions to how they're going to change things that politicians do.

Trump didn't have any position papers on his campaign website. Only his promises from speeches and talking points in written form. Anybody who was expecting actual policy to come from a Trump White House was fooling themselves. Consider the fact that his answer to a question about his intelligence was "I have a good brain." That's not paraphrasing, that is the actual quote. When combined with "I know a lot of words. I have the best words." Well all I can do right now is shake my head and yell at the TV.


I know that yelling reaction all too well.... and then there is the depression as I daily realize that this egotistical, immature, buffoon is the president of this country...and that most of his supporters would vote for him again...

Too depressing to think about.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 7:29 am 
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Blake wrote:
RaggedMan wrote:
George W. never made a speech with multiple "Only I can [fix said problem]" he just made all of the same type of campaign promises that offer vague allusions to how they're going to change things that politicians do.

Trump didn't have any position papers on his campaign website. Only his promises from speeches and talking points in written form. Anybody who was expecting actual policy to come from a Trump White House was fooling themselves. Consider the fact that his answer to a question about his intelligence was "I have a good brain." That's not paraphrasing, that is the actual quote. When combined with "I know a lot of words. I have the best words." Well all I can do right now is shake my head and yell at the TV.


I know that yelling reaction all too well.... and then there is the depression as I daily realize that this egotistical, immature, buffoon is the president of this country...and that most of his supporters would vote for him again...

Too depressing to think about.

It starts looking like a (destructive?) cult or something.
“President Trump is the greatest thing that’s happened to this country, I consider it a Biblical miracle that he’s there.”
And that's not just some hillbilly from Alabama woods, but the senator (guess, from those same woods anyway).
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/progressiv ... l-miracle/


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Prema wrote:
Blake wrote:
RaggedMan wrote:
George W. never made a speech with multiple "Only I can [fix said problem]" he just made all of the same type of campaign promises that offer vague allusions to how they're going to change things that politicians do.

Trump didn't have any position papers on his campaign website. Only his promises from speeches and talking points in written form. Anybody who was expecting actual policy to come from a Trump White House was fooling themselves. Consider the fact that his answer to a question about his intelligence was "I have a good brain." That's not paraphrasing, that is the actual quote. When combined with "I know a lot of words. I have the best words." Well all I can do right now is shake my head and yell at the TV.


I know that yelling reaction all too well.... and then there is the depression as I daily realize that this egotistical, immature, buffoon is the president of this country...and that most of his supporters would vote for him again...

Too depressing to think about.

It starts looking like a (destructive?) cult or something.
“President Trump is the greatest thing that’s happened to this country, I consider it a Biblical miracle that he’s there.”
And that's not just some hillbilly from Alabama woods, but the senator (guess, from those same woods anyway).
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/progressiv ... l-miracle/

Don't get me started on evangelical Christian politicians. Biggest bunch of hypocrites ever.

I was packed off to Sunday school at an evangelical church every week until I was 9-10 and saw first hand how those who were holiest during services were the ones most apt to be up to no good during the rest of the week.

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It's hard to say....

To be honest I'd hate to be an American and have to vote in that election!
It's like South Park, A choice between a Douche and a Turd Sandwich.

I think of Trump as an oaf but I like how blunt he is, even if I don't agree with what he is saying.
He never has got into the political correctness BS that everyone does these days.
There's quite literally nothing I liked about Clinton nor did I trust her at all.
She seemed to me like she was hiding an agenda and none of her answers in the debates were real answers.

I'd have voted for Trump, for better or worse.

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RaggedMan wrote:
Prema wrote:
Blake wrote:
RaggedMan wrote:
George W. never made a speech with multiple "Only I can [fix said problem]" he just made all of the same type of campaign promises that offer vague allusions to how they're going to change things that politicians do.

Trump didn't have any position papers on his campaign website. Only his promises from speeches and talking points in written form. Anybody who was expecting actual policy to come from a Trump White House was fooling themselves. Consider the fact that his answer to a question about his intelligence was "I have a good brain." That's not paraphrasing, that is the actual quote. When combined with "I know a lot of words. I have the best words." Well all I can do right now is shake my head and yell at the TV.


I know that yelling reaction all too well.... and then there is the depression as I daily realize that this egotistical, immature, buffoon is the president of this country...and that most of his supporters would vote for him again...

Too depressing to think about.

It starts looking like a (destructive?) cult or something.
“President Trump is the greatest thing that’s happened to this country, I consider it a Biblical miracle that he’s there.”
And that's not just some hillbilly from Alabama woods, but the senator (guess, from those same woods anyway).
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/progressiv ... l-miracle/

Don't get me started on evangelical Christian politicians. Biggest bunch of hypocrites ever.

I was packed off to Sunday school at an evangelical church every week until I was 9-10 and saw first hand how those who were holiest during services were the ones most apt to be up to no good during the rest of the week.

I remember the Mitt Romney (I think) campaign video from the previous elections. Something along the lines of 'As a white christian American, I want to do what's best for people, but if anyone comes near my family I'll blow their heads off'. Hmmm, yes, very christian!!!

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jasonthebadger wrote:
It's hard to say....

To be honest I'd hate to be an American and have to vote in that election!
It's like South Park, A choice between a Douche and a Turd Sandwich.

I think of Trump as an oaf but I like how blunt he is, even if I don't agree with what he is saying.
He never has got into the political correctness BS that everyone does these days.
There's quite literally nothing I liked about Clinton nor did I trust her at all.
She seemed to me like she was hiding an agenda and none of her answers in the debates were real answers.

I'd have voted for Trump, for better or worse.


I understand your dilemma, but the man is just dangerous!!

What amazes me is that with Trump demonstrating he simply can't get things done even with a majority that the Democrats have not found an challenger to oppose him. I would never vote for someone who denies things like climate change exist and then tries to dismantle every one else's efforts.

This latest Obamacare stance where he is prepared to watch things collapse around him to prove a point is just reckless.

It would not surprise me in the slightest to see an independent candidate in the mix is 18 months time as people realise he is just unable to do anything. I'm looking forward to seeing a solar Mexican wall too!


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jasonthebadger wrote:
It's hard to say....

To be honest I'd hate to be an American and have to vote in that election!
It's like South Park, A choice between a Douche and a Turd Sandwich.

I think of Trump as an oaf but I like how blunt he is, even if I don't agree with what he is saying.
He never has got into the political correctness BS that everyone does these days.
There's quite literally nothing I liked about Clinton nor did I trust her at all.
She seemed to me like she was hiding an agenda and none of her answers in the debates were real answers.

I'd have voted for Trump, for better or worse.


This thing with Trump and non political correctness, it is but the part of pro-Trump propaganda, a myth of him being "straight shooter" and not politically correct talker like those usual politicians. No, the truth is that he did not raise above that level exactly. He simply does not qualify to it. Being abusive, vindictive, rude, calling people names, insulting, gross, lying, manipulative, petulant...

And it is a lie in itself too. Trump is a conman, an opportunist. So if he estimates that not being "politically correct" in some situations would direct the water to his water mill, he will go for. And vice versa. Who does remember his fiery non politically correct speeches from the primaries when he was promising to expose the criminal Republican Bush-Cheney administration for the 9/11 and was blasting Saudi Arabia as the country sponsoring and spreading the radical Islam around the world and had their fingers involved in the 9/11? Sure. That was what his base wanted to hear then, and it worked for him well. But the very moment he clinched the RNC nomination, he said no word about it again. He zipped his hole. And where does he go to his first international trip as POTUS? Ah, to that very Saudi Arabia, there to kiss the donkey of that tribal Muslim king... perfectly politically correct. Power and money. That is all his political correctness that he knows about.


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Option or Prime wrote:
jasonthebadger wrote:
It's hard to say....

To be honest I'd hate to be an American and have to vote in that election!
It's like South Park, A choice between a Douche and a Turd Sandwich.

I think of Trump as an oaf but I like how blunt he is, even if I don't agree with what he is saying.
He never has got into the political correctness BS that everyone does these days.
There's quite literally nothing I liked about Clinton nor did I trust her at all.
She seemed to me like she was hiding an agenda and none of her answers in the debates were real answers.

I'd have voted for Trump, for better or worse.


I understand your dilemma, but the man is just dangerous!!

What amazes me is that with Trump demonstrating he simply can't get things done even with a majority that the Democrats have not found an challenger to oppose him. I would never vote for someone who denies things like climate change exist and then tries to dismantle every one else's efforts.

This latest Obamacare stance where he is prepared to watch things collapse around him to prove a point is just reckless.

It would not surprise me in the slightest to see an independent candidate in the mix is 18 months time as people realise he is just unable to do anything. I'm looking forward to seeing a solar Mexican wall too!


It is both reckless and utterly cynical. What's worse, many people in America will believe him on that one.
It is like the owner of the bus telling to the passengers that the bus they are riding on is going to eventually and so soon ditch and many will get injured and maybe die. See, the tires are in a terrible condition, but those are the tyres that came along with the bus when he took over the business back then, so it is not he who owns the responsibility, and they should go sue the previous owner.

The day or two after the elections, Ryan declared that they, Republicans, had the one-in-life opportunity to do and fix all: they gained the control over the WH, the House and the Senate! And they failed. Miserably. Ah, blame Obama.

It is a catch 22 for Reps. They can't simply repeal, it would be a political suicide (wonder why not if ACA is a death spiral anyway?). But they do not have the will to replace it with something better., not to fix it either. Only towards the worse. They are stuck. The blessing turning into a curse.
The only way would be to go towards the universal national health service, as the rest of the civilized world have had it in place for long now (both socialistic and capitalistic social systems). But someone got to make big bucks on selling the health insurances, no?

"Aetna, Anthem, Cigna, Humana and UnitedHealth Group — the big five for-profit insurers — cumulatively collected $4.5 billion in net earnings in the first three months of 2017"

That is why any programs type ACA is going to fail by default. And that is why the replacement for "better" is not possible. You can't have it both ways, folks to have good and affordable health insurance at law cost, and make those rich folks shareholders of those companies be richer. Take a pick.
So Obama's sin is not ACA in itself, but that there is no easy way out of it anymore. Folks got a taste for a NHS - can't take that away now. That's why the new failed proposal had under 20% of approval.


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Prema wrote:
Option or Prime wrote:
jasonthebadger wrote:
It's hard to say....

To be honest I'd hate to be an American and have to vote in that election!
It's like South Park, A choice between a Douche and a Turd Sandwich.

I think of Trump as an oaf but I like how blunt he is, even if I don't agree with what he is saying.
He never has got into the political correctness BS that everyone does these days.
There's quite literally nothing I liked about Clinton nor did I trust her at all.
She seemed to me like she was hiding an agenda and none of her answers in the debates were real answers.

I'd have voted for Trump, for better or worse.


I understand your dilemma, but the man is just dangerous!!

What amazes me is that with Trump demonstrating he simply can't get things done even with a majority that the Democrats have not found an challenger to oppose him. I would never vote for someone who denies things like climate change exist and then tries to dismantle every one else's efforts.

This latest Obamacare stance where he is prepared to watch things collapse around him to prove a point is just reckless.

It would not surprise me in the slightest to see an independent candidate in the mix is 18 months time as people realise he is just unable to do anything. I'm looking forward to seeing a solar Mexican wall too!


It is both reckless and utterly cynical. What's worse, many people in America will believe him on that one.
It is like the owner of the bus telling to the passengers that the bus they are riding on is going to eventually and so soon ditch and many will get injured and maybe die. See, the tires are in a terrible condition, but those are the tyres that came along with the bus when he took over the business back then, so it is not he who owns the responsibility, and they should go sue the previous owner.

The day or two after the elections, Ryan declared that they, Republicans, had the one-in-life opportunity to do and fix all: they gained the control over the WH, the House and the Senate! And they failed. Miserably. Ah, blame Obama.

It is a catch 22 for Reps. They can't simply repeal, it would be a political suicide (wonder why not if ACA is a death spiral anyway?). But they do not have the will to replace it with something better., not to fix it either. Only towards the worse. They are stuck. The blessing turning into a curse.
The only way would be to go towards the universal national health service, as the rest of the civilized world have had it in place for long now (both socialistic and capitalistic social systems). But someone got to make big bucks on selling the health insurances, no?

"Aetna, Anthem, Cigna, Humana and UnitedHealth Group — the big five for-profit insurers — cumulatively collected $4.5 billion in net earnings in the first three months of 2017"

That is why any programs type ACA is going to fail by default. And that is why the replacement for "better" is not possible. You can't have it both ways, folks to have good and affordable health insurance at law cost, and make those rich folks shareholders of those companies be richer. Take a pick.
So Obama's sin is not ACA in itself, but that there is no easy way out of it anymore. Folks got a taste for a NHS - can't take that away now. That's why the new failed proposal had under 20% of approval.

The biggest joke in all of this is that they had 7 years in which they held majorities in both houses and instead of spending that time coming up with something that at least they could agree amongst their own party was better they simply kept coming up, and passing, repeal bills that they knew would be safely vetoed.

Now they find themselves with the power in both the legislative and executive branches and unable to come up with a plan that can pass a simple majority because they squandered all of that time simply bitching about something instead of making a real effort to do something.

Don't get me wrong. I am glad that they failed, and most likely will continue to do so. But I just find it mind boggling that supposedly intelligent people can't see that at some point you either need to do something meaning full or shut up about it.

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Don't know if any of you guys listen to Howard Stern; radio talk show host, but he actually says he knows Trump pretty well, and that in his opinion, Trump never wanted to be president. He ran for the presidency just so he can get more publicity for his brand, his name. He was sure he would lose to Hillary Clinton but of course it didn't pan out that way.
That would explain his behavior. Because nearly everything he has done since he's been in office resemble the actions of someone who wants no part of the job. He probably can't wait to get out of there. His 2020 campaign should be interesting to say the least.


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If that is true then America should be worried, a lot can go wrong in 4 years, probably not economically but for someone who was looking to be USA centric he seems to be quite involved in world politics. More concerning is if Trump isn't keen on the job, who is? HK has masses of baggage and is hardly an alternative so who is?


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kleefton wrote:
Don't know if any of you guys listen to Howard Stern; radio talk show host, but he actually says he knows Trump pretty well, and that in his opinion, Trump never wanted to be president. He ran for the presidency just so he can get more publicity for his brand, his name. He was sure he would lose to Hillary Clinton but of course it didn't pan out that way.
That would explain his behavior. Because nearly everything he has done since he's been in office resemble the actions of someone who wants no part of the job. He probably can't wait to get out of there. His 2020 campaign should be interesting to say the least.

I can see that and have heard it from other sources. However if that truly is the case then by being completely incompetent he's doing more damage to his brand that anything else ever could've.

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