planetf1.com

It is currently Mon Jul 16, 2018 9:01 am

All times are UTC


Forum rules





Post new topic This topic is locked, you cannot edit posts or make further replies.
Author Message
PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 3:02 am 
Offline

Joined: Mon Jul 21, 2008 1:16 am
Posts: 1308
etchedchaos wrote:
nike2die4 wrote:
etchedchaos wrote:
nike2die4 wrote:
etchedchaos wrote:
The sheer fact the gap is so large should put pay to any BBC fix theories, simply because no-one tries to fix something like laptimes with such a giant gap between 1st and 2nd. What you do is make it something small like 3 tenths of a second, 1.1 seconds is immediately going to draw suspicion.

It's very likely Lewis is 3-4 tenths faster than Vettel and the track conditions were beneficial for his lap. Not to mention Vettel could've left time on the track during his run. The rules are that they take the time of one single lap, not the fastest time out of a series of laps, so any mistakes will be magnified.

it's a joke thing,nothing to be taken seriously so obviously the times would be inconsistent,wouldn't be surprised if Yuji Ide or Sato sets a time a second faster than everyone else.


Joke or not, I still have to be the sane one amidst a sea of 'it's a fix' talk :p. Also, I'm not sure the F1 drivers who've taken part would want to be seen as that much slower than someone else, I have no doubts Vettel will be itching to get back on and try to rectify the matter.

he has 3 F1 titles,only his fans would be itching for him to get back to rectify that matter,taking this seriously as something to guage talent is like taking the ROC or NBA all stars game seriously.


You underestimate the sheer competitive will of these drivers, Vettel has shown absolutely no inclination that he would happily play second fiddle to anyone on a list of times, regardless of how pointless they are. Lewis himself said he was upset he had to drive in the wet for his first run, for a reigning WDC at that time, it shows how much they want to be first in absolutely everything they do.

Though how you think I'm gauging talent is beyond me, I was merely trying to scupper the it's a fix talk and those who think something like Lewis being a second faster is impossible. I have no doubts that someone who makes a living racing front-wheel drive vehicles can beat Lewis' time handily.

i don't underestimate anything about their competitive wills,all that talk Lewis was doing was all tongue in cheek(at least that's what it sounds to me),i don't see the big deal here,as i said i highly doubt Vettel is itching to beat his time,sure he would do it again if the opportunity arises and he has time for it but i think his priority is more on winning titles and 2013 than what Lewis is doing on top gear.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 4:04 am 
Offline

Joined: Sun Dec 04, 2011 3:21 pm
Posts: 2060
_Rogue_ wrote:
I have to admit i do find it mildly amusing that there are now conspiracy theorists abounding as soon as Hamilton does something impressive that sound as ridiculous as the conspiracy theorists did last year re:- Whitmarsh et all .... I tend to find Occam's razor a good principle to work by in these sort of situations :)


This. Every time Hamilton does well there's always another reason, its rigged, he's a cheat, he had a better car, the track conditions were more favourable; you guys are such hypocrites its not even funny any more, how the hell would track conditions amount to 1.1 seconds? Looks like its our turn to get the tin foil hats out because apparently the BBC are being blackmailed so that Hamilton can win by a bigger margin. Just accept it, everyone got whooped, if they were rigging it for Brits then why aren't Button, Mansell and Hill 2nd, 3rd and 4th? grow up. Hamilton went there and killed it, the end.

Jesus Christ.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 4:13 am 
Offline

Joined: Sun May 04, 2008 3:10 pm
Posts: 165
nike2die4 wrote:
i don't underestimate anything about their competitive wills,all that talk Lewis was doing was all tongue in cheek(at least that's what it sounds to me),i don't see the big deal here,as i said i highly doubt Vettel is itching to beat his time,sure he would do it again if the opportunity arises and he has time for it but i think his priority is more on winning titles and 2013 than what Lewis is doing on top gear.


Naturally Vettel won't give it a second thought during the season, but during the Winter i can easily see him pestering the BBC team for a chance at taking Lewis down. Also, let us not forget that Lewis will no doubt be joking about it with Vettel when they next meet, and as such I could see Lewis pulling out the finger for once :P (or is Jenson the only one who does the finger to annoy Seb?:P).


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 8:29 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sun Nov 13, 2011 4:09 pm
Posts: 4237
Location: LONDON...!
I think you should give credit where credit is due.

Lewis is dammed if he does and dammed if he dont.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 8:49 am 
Offline

Joined: Wed Sep 23, 2009 9:42 pm
Posts: 1279
I only came here from the main forum because I wanted to see what others thought! It seems the usual nutjobs are trying to make serious dirt out of what is an extravagent entertainment show FFS!
FWIW I think Top Gear is largely a load of tosh - but the kids like it - too young to see the irony and heavily edited 'challenges' - but there you go.
As for the Hamilton lap - it looked pretty slow but clean to me - and they always say if it looks slow it is probably fast, which is probably true with such a road car? Sideways drifting and sliding is loss of energy/force in the right direction, so to speak - which, when you haven't got a lot of power to start with - is quite important!
I also found the 1sec gap a bit strange - but not unfeasible. AFAIK, the drivers get 5 timed laps, and take the best one. I don't know how many 'warm up' laps they are allowed, if any?
It is also quite feasible that everyone on a second visit will improve (subject to weather) their time, as they presumably will take less to 'get into the grove'? Given LH's (and JB's) times were set on wet track a heavy improvement was potentially on the cards.
Did I hear it right - that the time was set last year - and they have kept it secret til now? I find it unbelievably odd that they say they never told LH his time either!

Nevertheless, for all the diehard fanboyz and fangirlz - it is just a bit of fun, albeit a bit more competitive amongst the F1 drivers! Put it another way, if Algersuari beats LH's time tomorrow - do you think he will be signed by one of the top F1 teams? NO, of course not - Ergo, it is just for fun.......and means NOTHING!


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 11:20 am 
Offline

Joined: Mon Jul 20, 2009 12:57 am
Posts: 1010
I knew people would come out and start crying about it, but I see no reason why Lewis wouldn't be a second faster than Seb in a Suzuki Liana. In a Red Bull F1 car, it would be tenths...but it's such a different challenge that you can't really compare it.

It's not just a joke though, seeing as Lewis made a point of coming back to have a go on a dry track. Yeah it's a bit of fun, but you can bet your life Lewis will casually mention it at any opportunity to Seb. ;)

_________________
Image


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 12:31 pm 
Offline

Joined: Mon Jan 03, 2011 4:02 pm
Posts: 59
blah, they all have nothing on Fernando.




*Flees*


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 1:00 pm 
Offline

Joined: Mon Jul 21, 2008 1:16 am
Posts: 1308
etchedchaos wrote:
nike2die4 wrote:
i don't underestimate anything about their competitive wills,all that talk Lewis was doing was all tongue in cheek(at least that's what it sounds to me),i don't see the big deal here,as i said i highly doubt Vettel is itching to beat his time,sure he would do it again if the opportunity arises and he has time for it but i think his priority is more on winning titles and 2013 than what Lewis is doing on top gear.


Naturally Vettel won't give it a second thought during the season, but during the Winter i can easily see him pestering the BBC team for a chance at taking Lewis down. Also, let us not forget that Lewis will no doubt be joking about it with Vettel when they next meet, and as such I could see Lewis pulling out the finger for once :P (or is Jenson the only one who does the finger to annoy Seb?:P).

Hamilton is more into fisting :-P .....i'll get me coat now


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 1:02 pm 
Offline

Joined: Mon Jul 21, 2008 1:16 am
Posts: 1308
Adaemus wrote:
I knew people would come out and start crying about it, but I see no reason why Lewis wouldn't be a second faster than Seb in a Suzuki Liana. In a Red Bull F1 car, it would be tenths...but it's such a different challenge that you can't really compare it.

It's not just a joke though, seeing as Lewis made a point of coming back to have a go on a dry track. Yeah it's a bit of fun, but you can bet your life Lewis will casually mention it at any opportunity to Seb. ;)

it's a joke,i mean wasn't it that obvious? it was to me....sure he'll mention it to Seb,it's like when you and your friends gather to play video game,you want to always be the best and if it's a racing game,you want to always have the fastest time for bragging rights,i doubt though you'd be at work wondering how to beat your friend's time on PS3 :lol:


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 1:48 pm 
Offline

Joined: Mon Jul 20, 2009 12:57 am
Posts: 1010
They may not devote time to thinking about it, but you'd certainly rib them about it! ;) Like Rubens handing out T shirts after he set the top time.

Top Gear is one of the biggest shows on the planet, seen in loads of countries...you can bet Lewis had an extra spring in his step the next morning.

_________________
Image


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 2:13 pm 
Offline

Joined: Fri Oct 05, 2012 1:44 pm
Posts: 169
FringeUK wrote:
I only came here from the main forum because I wanted to see what others thought! It seems the usual nutjobs are trying to make serious dirt out of what is an extravagent entertainment show FFS!
FWIW I think Top Gear is largely a load of tosh - but the kids like it - too young to see the irony and heavily edited 'challenges' - but there you go.
As for the Hamilton lap - it looked pretty slow but clean to me - and they always say if it looks slow it is probably fast, which is probably true with such a road car? Sideways drifting and sliding is loss of energy/force in the right direction, so to speak - which, when you haven't got a lot of power to start with - is quite important!
I also found the 1sec gap a bit strange - but not unfeasible. AFAIK, the drivers get 5 timed laps, and take the best one. I don't know how many 'warm up' laps they are allowed, if any?
It is also quite feasible that everyone on a second visit will improve (subject to weather) their time, as they presumably will take less to 'get into the grove'? Given LH's (and JB's) times were set on wet track a heavy improvement was potentially on the cards.
Did I hear it right - that the time was set last year - and they have kept it secret til now? I find it unbelievably odd that they say they never told LH his time either!

Nevertheless, for all the diehard fanboyz and fangirlz - it is just a bit of fun, albeit a bit more competitive amongst the F1 drivers! Put it another way, if Algersuari beats LH's time tomorrow - do you think he will be signed by one of the top F1 teams? NO, of course not - Ergo, it is just for fun.......and means NOTHING!


Refreshing, not a whiff of insufferable teeny bopper style starry eyed fantasy worship, well put :thumbup:

Which was the corner he stuffed up in practice? It was a classic China 'esque chuck-it-off-the-track goof :lol: Was it Gambon?

_________________
o·ver·rat·ed - overestimation of skills or abilities, anything that is given too much credit and hype.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 2:14 pm 
Offline

Joined: Mon Jul 21, 2008 1:16 am
Posts: 1308
Adaemus wrote:
They may not devote time to thinking about it, but you'd certainly rib them about it! ;) Like Rubens handing out T shirts after he set the top time.

Top Gear is one of the biggest shows on the planet, seen in loads of countries...you can bet Lewis had an extra spring in his step the next morning.

true.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 2:18 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Nov 25, 2009 3:56 am
Posts: 8767
Location: London
Adaemus wrote:
They may not devote time to thinking about it, but you'd certainly rib them about it! ;) Like Rubens handing out T shirts after he set the top time.

Top Gear is one of the biggest shows on the planet, seen in loads of countries...you can bet Lewis had an extra spring in his step the next morning.

Let's see how long that spring lasts when Vettel laps him sometime this season... :-P

_________________
1994 1995 2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 Get well soon Schumi.

No one call anyone a moo-pickle...


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 3:03 pm 
Offline

Joined: Mon Jul 20, 2009 12:57 am
Posts: 1010
Laura23 wrote:
Adaemus wrote:
They may not devote time to thinking about it, but you'd certainly rib them about it! ;) Like Rubens handing out T shirts after he set the top time.

Top Gear is one of the biggest shows on the planet, seen in loads of countries...you can bet Lewis had an extra spring in his step the next morning.

Let's see how long that spring lasts when Vettel laps him sometime this season... :-P


When driving for Mercedes...it's the little victories that count the most! :lol:

_________________
Image


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 3:15 pm 
Offline

Joined: Wed Sep 23, 2009 6:51 am
Posts: 1049
Laura23 wrote:
Adaemus wrote:
They may not devote time to thinking about it, but you'd certainly rib them about it! ;) Like Rubens handing out T shirts after he set the top time.

Top Gear is one of the biggest shows on the planet, seen in loads of countries...you can bet Lewis had an extra spring in his step the next morning.

Let's see how long that spring lasts when Vettel laps him sometime this season... :-P

He might do the unlapping himself thing again ;)


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 3:29 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Nov 25, 2009 3:56 am
Posts: 8767
Location: London
phyz wrote:
Laura23 wrote:
Adaemus wrote:
They may not devote time to thinking about it, but you'd certainly rib them about it! ;) Like Rubens handing out T shirts after he set the top time.

Top Gear is one of the biggest shows on the planet, seen in loads of countries...you can bet Lewis had an extra spring in his step the next morning.

Let's see how long that spring lasts when Vettel laps him sometime this season... :-P

He might do the unlapping himself thing again ;)

:lol:

Imagine if it still backed Vettel into Button...

_________________
1994 1995 2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 Get well soon Schumi.

No one call anyone a moo-pickle...


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 4:12 pm 
Offline

Joined: Wed Sep 23, 2009 6:51 am
Posts: 1049
Laura23 wrote:
phyz wrote:
Laura23 wrote:
Adaemus wrote:
They may not devote time to thinking about it, but you'd certainly rib them about it! ;) Like Rubens handing out T shirts after he set the top time.

Top Gear is one of the biggest shows on the planet, seen in loads of countries...you can bet Lewis had an extra spring in his step the next morning.

Let's see how long that spring lasts when Vettel laps him sometime this season... :-P

He might do the unlapping himself thing again ;)

:lol:

Imagine if it still backed Vettel into Button...

Maybe, just maybe, the Hamilton and Button camps will bury the hatchet after that.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 5:18 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue May 10, 2011 11:47 pm
Posts: 1149
Just a thought, I wonder could Seb go any faster in LHD Liana with the gear lever in in his right hand & the body width to what is for him his natural side.
Don't know about 1.1 seconds though.

_________________
Champions are made from something they have deep inside of them - a desire, a dream, a vision. They have last-minute stamina, they have to be a little faster, they have the skill & the will but the will must be stronger than the skill. Muhammad Ali


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 5:22 pm 
Offline

Joined: Mon Jul 21, 2008 1:16 am
Posts: 1308
Laura23 wrote:
Adaemus wrote:
They may not devote time to thinking about it, but you'd certainly rib them about it! ;) Like Rubens handing out T shirts after he set the top time.

Top Gear is one of the biggest shows on the planet, seen in loads of countries...you can bet Lewis had an extra spring in his step the next morning.

Let's see how long that spring lasts when Vettel laps him sometime this season... :-P

that spring already went away....what if he laps Vettel? :-P


Last edited by nike2die4 on Mon Feb 18, 2013 5:27 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 5:27 pm 
Offline

Joined: Mon Jul 21, 2008 1:16 am
Posts: 1308
ob1kenobi.23 wrote:
Just a thought, I wonder could Seb go any faster in LHD Liana with the gear lever in in his right hand & the body width to what is for him his natural side.
Don't know about 1.1 seconds though.

i doubt that,you aren't used to it but you get over it pretty quickly,i remember had that feeling the first time i drove a right hand car....felt weird at first but got used to it almost immediately so surely it would be easier for a pro.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 5:38 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue May 10, 2011 11:47 pm
Posts: 1149
nike2die4 wrote:
ob1kenobi.23 wrote:
Just a thought, I wonder could Seb go any faster in LHD Liana with the gear lever in in his right hand & the body width to what is for him his natural side.
Don't know about 1.1 seconds though.

i doubt that,you aren't used to it but you get over it pretty quickly,i remember had that feeling the first time i drove a right hand car....felt weird at first but got used to it almost immediately so surely it would be easier for a pro.


As I said, just a thought, I know it takes me quite a while to get used to driving a LHD car & I would have done this on a yearly basis till quite recently. I accept I had to get used to other traffic, roundabouts, intersections etc.
I believe people who normally drive RHD get more opportunity to try the opposite than do do people who normally drive LHD.

_________________
Champions are made from something they have deep inside of them - a desire, a dream, a vision. They have last-minute stamina, they have to be a little faster, they have the skill & the will but the will must be stronger than the skill. Muhammad Ali


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 5:54 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon May 31, 2010 6:41 pm
Posts: 6587
nike2die4 wrote:
ob1kenobi.23 wrote:
Just a thought, I wonder could Seb go any faster in LHD Liana with the gear lever in in his right hand & the body width to what is for him his natural side.
Don't know about 1.1 seconds though.

i doubt that,you aren't used to it but you get over it pretty quickly,i remember had that feeling the first time i drove a right hand car....felt weird at first but got used to it almost immediately so surely it would be easier for a pro.


[off topic]
Maybe on the road but I've known guys who have said it took them years when it came to driving at competitive levels to get on Par with themselves in RHD mode and thats with regular events and testing. Loads over here were spending big bucks getting WRCars converted (and at one stage getting the rules changed to allow it) If it was an easy swap I would doubt they would be lobbying the FIA to change the rules and spending the obvious coinage in getting cars converted over whch can be fairly major work.

The gear stick is the small bit the car positioning is the major factor. Your going from running your own donkey over the apex on a right hand corner to running the passenger seat over it and vice versa for Lh corners. You have to reset that line of sight as it were . If you ever watch someone on track or stage that hasn't adjusted yet they tend to go wide one way and too tight the other and the Co Driver usually looks a bit nervous :lol: :lol: [/off topic]

_________________
Disclaimer: The above post maybe tongue in cheek.

"I thought I'd get your theories, mock them, then embrace my own. The usual."


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 5:57 pm 
Offline

Joined: Fri Dec 25, 2009 12:06 am
Posts: 27
Location: Toronto
Lewis' original lap on a wet and oily track was only 0.7 seconds slower than Vettel's dry run, so for him to knock off 1.8 seconds on a dried-out track is not surprising. What's shocking is how fast Lewis was on that wet/oily track four years ago.

_________________
KOBAYASHI & KUBICA


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 6:08 pm 
Offline

Joined: Wed Sep 23, 2009 9:42 pm
Posts: 1279
As a bike rider as well as a multicar driver LHD and RHD - I think there is some merit in what Johnston says - I certainly find that when I swap from one to the other my road positioning may be slightly 'off' for a while.......
However, the interesting thing is when I'm riding. In the UK, I'm usually more hesitant on left hookers, as if I run wide - I'll biff into the oncoming traffic; whereas, abroad it is of course the opposite but I admit to still finding it hard to feel as confident on left handers though even if I've been abroad for a while, and even though on a bike the actual road positioning is essentially the same. I dunno, for me I think there is some kind of inherent inbuilt safety mechanism (i.e go a bit slower!) for left handers from being a Brit!
just sayin.......
I'd be curious to know if those who natively use LHD do have similar traits, especially those who are bikers too.......


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 6:17 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Jun 15, 2007 8:14 pm
Posts: 1681
FormulaFun wrote:
_Rogue_ wrote:
I have to admit i do find it mildly amusing that there are now conspiracy theorists abounding as soon as Hamilton does something impressive that sound as ridiculous as the conspiracy theorists did last year re:- Whitmarsh et all .... I tend to find Occam's razor a good principle to work by in these sort of situations :)


This. Every time Hamilton does well there's always another reason, its rigged, he's a cheat, he had a better car, the track conditions were more favourable; you guys are such hypocrites its not even funny any more, how the hell would track conditions amount to 1.1 seconds? Looks like its our turn to get the tin foil hats out because apparently the BBC are being blackmailed so that Hamilton can win by a bigger margin. Just accept it, everyone got whooped, if they were rigging it for Brits then why aren't Button, Mansell and Hill 2nd, 3rd and 4th? grow up. Hamilton went there and killed it, the end.

Jesus Christ.


Hit the nail on the head! I like you.

NSX-R wrote:
Lewis' original lap on a wet and oily track was only 0.7 seconds slower than Vettel's dry run, so for him to knock off 1.8 seconds on a dried-out track is not surprising. What's shocking is how fast Lewis was on that wet/oily track four years ago.


That's a very good point, Lewis should've been even faster in the dry.


Also obi makes a good point about LHD vs RHD, I know when I drive LHD vehicles I feel like I'm mowing people down and I'm very conscious about my positioning. But that all fades after 10 minutes.

I'm sure F1 drivers being used to the middle and LHD/RHD can adapt a lot quicker to changes of steering positions. Plus seeing as Lewis spends a lot of time in the states, he's probably just as used to both RHD and LHD vehicles.

I don't think its worth a whopping 1.1 seconds though, unless they are totally confused.

_________________
Pathfinder


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 10:09 pm 
Offline

Joined: Mon Jul 21, 2008 1:16 am
Posts: 1308
Johnston wrote:
nike2die4 wrote:
ob1kenobi.23 wrote:
Just a thought, I wonder could Seb go any faster in LHD Liana with the gear lever in in his right hand & the body width to what is for him his natural side.
Don't know about 1.1 seconds though.

i doubt that,you aren't used to it but you get over it pretty quickly,i remember had that feeling the first time i drove a right hand car....felt weird at first but got used to it almost immediately so surely it would be easier for a pro.


[off topic]
Maybe on the road but I've known guys who have said it took them years when it came to driving at competitive levels to get on Par with themselves in RHD mode and thats with regular events and testing. Loads over here were spending big bucks getting WRCars converted (and at one stage getting the rules changed to allow it) If it was an easy swap I would doubt they would be lobbying the FIA to change the rules and spending the obvious coinage in getting cars converted over whch can be fairly major work.

The gear stick is the small bit the car positioning is the major factor. Your going from running your own donkey over the apex on a right hand corner to running the passenger seat over it and vice versa for Lh corners. You have to reset that line of sight as it were . If you ever watch someone on track or stage that hasn't adjusted yet they tend to go wide one way and too tight the other and the Co Driver usually looks a bit nervous :lol: :lol: [/off topic]

well we cant compare regular everyday driving/TG to WRC now can we? on the road it's easier but am sure as you said it would take more time on a competitive level.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 10:18 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sat Aug 09, 2008 9:22 pm
Posts: 7998
Assuming the keep things constant, like type of fuel and amount in the tank, are they the same tyres etc, there will still be an amount of 'loosening up' of the engine that has quite an effect on drivability of a car like that. No real way to compare it though, same as for air density and temp. Its just pot luck.
Good lap though.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 10:52 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon May 31, 2010 6:41 pm
Posts: 6587
nike2die4 wrote:
well we cant compare regular everyday driving/TG to WRC now can we? on the road it's easier but am sure as you said it would take more time on a competitive level.


Well that's it we're talking about around a track where car position can gain/lose a lot of time.

It's a shame TG doesn't have that GPS 3d overlay stuff that SKY has :lol: :lol:

_________________
Disclaimer: The above post maybe tongue in cheek.

"I thought I'd get your theories, mock them, then embrace my own. The usual."


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 11:40 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sun Mar 27, 2011 1:59 pm
Posts: 5172
xenon wrote:
blah, they all have nothing on Fernando.




*Flees*

No need to run! I'd love to see Fernando on top gear. I guess it's a case of weather or not Fernando want to do it and Ferrari would let him.

_________________
There is no theory of evolution, just a list of animals that Chuck Norris allows to live.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 12:01 am 
Offline

Joined: Tue Oct 04, 2011 6:29 pm
Posts: 5712
Location: u.k
minchy wrote:
xenon wrote:
blah, they all have nothing on Fernando.




*Flees*

No need to run! I'd love to see Fernando on top gear. I guess it's a case of weather or not Fernando want to do it and Ferrari would let him.


I'd doubt it'd happen. Besides 2007, what can Jeremy really ask Alonso about?

_________________
Winter is Coming


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:21 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Feb 13, 2003 9:39 pm
Posts: 3103
Behind the scenes video of his lap here:

http://transmission.blogs.topgear.com/2 ... -hamilton/


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:23 am 
Online

Joined: Fri Nov 09, 2012 2:54 pm
Posts: 987
SteveC84 wrote:
I think you should give credit where credit is due.

Lewis is dammed if he does and dammed if he dont.

Exactly

What I find funny is those complaining or crying because of what Lewis did would be going "Ha Ha" if he had failed to beat Sebs time.

Fact is the original Stig who is a professional racing driver who knows the track like the back of his glove was impressed by Lewis's time because it was wet thats why he said the comment about if it was dry it would be a great time.

Same car, same track and by blowing sebs time away by 1 second was brilliant. Can argue all you want but even Jeremy was impressed and he doesnt get impressed easily by times. Especially the stig who knows better then all of us.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:35 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Oct 06, 2006 12:07 pm
Posts: 9215
^What did the stig "say"?

_________________
Räikkönen - Vettel - Bottas
Thank you Nico - You´re the champ!

PF1 Pick 10 Competition 2016: CHAMPION (2 wins, 8 podiums)


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:37 am 
Offline

Joined: Thu May 12, 2011 6:08 pm
Posts: 3609
People are taking these lap times very seriously.......

_________________
Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely. [Lord Acton]
My own Google Earth Motor Sport file. http://www.mediafire.com/?jzm1ieatytv
Follow me @asphalt_world


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 5:58 pm 
Offline

Joined: Sun Aug 28, 2011 8:48 pm
Posts: 2717
Location: UK
Asphalt_World wrote:
People are taking these lap times very seriously.......

:thumbup:

Do people really think that these lap times are in any way a reflection of the drivers' relative abilities in an F1 car?


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 6:17 pm 
Offline

Joined: Thu May 12, 2011 6:08 pm
Posts: 3609
j man wrote:
Asphalt_World wrote:
People are taking these lap times very seriously.......

:thumbup:

Do people really think that these lap times are in any way a reflection of the drivers' relative abilities in an F1 car?


They're not even a real reflection of the drivers relative abilities in the reasonably priced car due to massive variables.

_________________
Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely. [Lord Acton]
My own Google Earth Motor Sport file. http://www.mediafire.com/?jzm1ieatytv
Follow me @asphalt_world


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 7:26 pm 
Offline

Joined: Fri Oct 05, 2012 1:44 pm
Posts: 169
Asphalt_World wrote:
j man wrote:
Asphalt_World wrote:
People are taking these lap times very seriously.......

:thumbup:

Do people really think that these lap times are in any way a reflection of the drivers' relative abilities in an F1 car?


They're not even a real reflection of the drivers relative abilities in the reasonably priced car due to massive variables.


Thankfully why this thread is languishing in Off Topic along with such titles as Horsemeat Scandal & Jeep Grand Cherokee fails elk test..

_________________
o·ver·rat·ed - overestimation of skills or abilities, anything that is given too much credit and hype.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 8:41 pm 
Offline

Joined: Mon Jul 21, 2008 1:16 am
Posts: 1308
Johnston wrote:
nike2die4 wrote:
well we cant compare regular everyday driving/TG to WRC now can we? on the road it's easier but am sure as you said it would take more time on a competitive level.


Well that's it we're talking about around a track where car position can gain/lose a lot of time.

It's a shame TG doesn't have that GPS 3d overlay stuff that SKY has :lol: :lol:

dont get too carried away. :lol:


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 8:42 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sun Nov 13, 2011 4:09 pm
Posts: 4237
Location: LONDON...!
j man wrote:
Asphalt_World wrote:
People are taking these lap times very seriously.......

:thumbup:

Do people really think that these lap times are in any way a reflection of the drivers' relative abilities in an F1 car?

Tell that to Lewis Hamilton


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 8:48 pm 
Offline

Joined: Mon Jul 21, 2008 1:16 am
Posts: 1308
SteveC84 wrote:
j man wrote:
Asphalt_World wrote:
People are taking these lap times very seriously.......

:thumbup:

Do people really think that these lap times are in any way a reflection of the drivers' relative abilities in an F1 car?

Tell that to Lewis Hamilton

tell yourself first before you start wanting to tell Hamilton.


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic This topic is locked, you cannot edit posts or make further replies.

All times are UTC


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group