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Author:  Icemanjee1 [ Thu Nov 24, 2016 1:36 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: PF1 Pick 10 Competition - 2016 Edition (Brazil Updated)

Abu Dhabi 2016

1. Lewis Hamilton
2. Nico Rosberg
3. Daniel Ricciardo
4. Max Verstappen
5. Sebastian Vettel
6. Kimi Raikkonen
7. Nico Hulkenberg
8. Sergio Perez
9. Fernando Alonso
10. Valtteri Bottas

Author:  theferret [ Thu Nov 24, 2016 3:19 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: PF1 Pick 10 Competition - 2016 Edition (Brazil Updated)

Abu Dhabi 2016:

1. Lewis Hamilton
2. Nico Rosberg
3. Daniel Ricciardo
4. Sebastian Vettel
5. Max Verstappen
6. Sergio Perez
7. Valtteri Bottas
8. Kimi Raikkonen
9. Nico Hulkenberg
10. Felipe Massa

Author:  Covalent [ Thu Nov 24, 2016 4:45 pm ]
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MistaVega23 wrote:
Covalent wrote:
Picks sent to Fountoukos13! Good luck everyone.
Not sure if I'll be able to watch the finale as I'll be leaving for a holiday on Saturday morning (anyone know how you can watch F1 on the Canary Islands?)

Which island you going to? I know a few sports bars in Tenerife and Lanzarote... failing that, depending on your WiFi speed I can PM you an app for android...

Anyhow, my final picks of the season:

1. Nico Rosberg (yes I think he'll surprise us all and dominate it)
2. Lewis Hamilton (a bad start and a futile recovery drive)
3. Daniel Ricciardo
4. Max Verstappen
5. Sebastian Vettel
6. Kimi Raikkonen
7. Nico Hulkenberg
8. Sergio Perez
9. Valtteri Bottas
10. Felipe Massa

Cheers, PM'd you!

Author:  mcdo [ Thu Nov 24, 2016 5:09 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: PF1 Pick 10 Competition - 2016 Edition (Brazil Updated)

Abu Dhabi

1. Hamilton
2. Rosberg
3. Vettel
4. Verstappen
5. Ricciardo
6. Raikkonen
7. Perez
8. Hulkenberg
9. Bottas
10. Massa

Author:  pokerman [ Thu Nov 24, 2016 5:09 pm ]
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Mod_Turquoise wrote:
well, i am gonna go all out for a surprise result (where Rosberg gets overtaken by the bulls and ends up crashing or 4th or less!)
what the heck - its the last race, and if this happens it will be as exciting as the end of Brazils race!
1) Ham
2) Ric
3) Vet
4) Verstappen
5) Ros
6) Rai
7) Hulk
8) Bot
9) Mas
10) But

As a Hamilton fan I hope you nail it. ;)

Author:  deSiRiuS [ Thu Nov 24, 2016 6:53 pm ]
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ABU DHABI

HAM
ROS
RIC
VES
RAI
VET
ALO
SAI
PER
HUL

Author:  Pisco Sour [ Thu Nov 24, 2016 8:40 pm ]
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Abu Dhabi:

1. Hamilton
2. Rosberg
3. Ricciardo
4. Verstappen
5. Raikkonen
6. Vettel
7. Hulkenberg
8. Bottas
9. Kvyat
10. Alonso

Author:  Tufty [ Thu Nov 24, 2016 9:17 pm ]
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Abu Dhabi:

1: Hamilton
2: Rosberg
3: Verstappen
4: Ricciardo
5: Raikkonen
6: Vettel
7: Hulkenberg
8: Sainz
9: Bottas
10: Alonso

Author:  P-F1 Mod [ Thu Nov 24, 2016 10:09 pm ]
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One last shot to annihilate Turquoise :P

1 - HAM
2 - ROS
3 - RAI
4 - RIC
5 - VES
6 - VET
7 - SAI
8 - PER
9 - ALO
10 - GRO

Author:  Schumacher forever#1 [ Thu Nov 24, 2016 10:49 pm ]
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Abu Dhabi:

1. Rosberg
2. Hamilton
3. Ricciardo
4. Raikkonen
5. Verstappen
6. Vettel
7. Bottas
8. Hulkenberg
9. Perez
10. Alonso

Author:  Colesy917 [ Thu Nov 24, 2016 11:06 pm ]
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Abu Dhabi 2016

1. Hamilton
2. Rosberg
3. Raikkonen
4. Ricciardo
5. Vettel
6. Vertsappen
7. Perez
8. Hulkenberg
9. Massa
10. Button

Author:  McPrancingBull [ Fri Nov 25, 2016 12:08 am ]
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Abu Dhabi

1. Hamilton
2. Rosberg
3. Ricciardo
4. Verstappen
5. Vettel
6. Raikkonen
7. Perez
8. Hulkenberg
9. Bottas
10. Massa

Author:  pokerman [ Fri Nov 25, 2016 12:12 am ]
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Entry submitted to Fountoukos13.

Author:  F1_Ernie [ Fri Nov 25, 2016 12:20 am ]
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Abu Dhabi:

1. Hamilton
2. Ricciardo
3. Vettel
4. Verstappen
5. Rosberg
6. Raikkonen
7. Perez
8. Bottas
9. Hulkenberg
10. Massa

Author:  Black_Flag_11 [ Fri Nov 25, 2016 1:45 am ]
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Abu Dhabi
1. Hamilton
2. Rosberg
3. Ricciardo
4. Vettel
5. Verstappen
6. Raikkonen
7. Alonso
8. Perez
9. Hulkenberg
10. Bottas

Author:  purchville [ Fri Nov 25, 2016 2:36 am ]
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Abu Dhabi:

1. Hamilton
2. Rosberg
3. Verstappen
4. Ricciardo
5. Vettel
6. Perez
7. Bottas
8. Hulkenberg
9. Alonso
10. Sainz

Author:  Bentrovato [ Fri Nov 25, 2016 3:52 am ]
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Abu dabi

1. Rosberg
2. Hamilton
3. Ricciardo
4. Verstappen
5. Vettel
6. Raikkonen
7. Hulkenberg
8. Perez
9. Bottas
10. Sainz

Author:  Exediron [ Fri Nov 25, 2016 4:40 am ]
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I've sent my picks to Fountoukos13; good luck everybody, and hopefully we'll have a much less boring race than I'm forecasting! :lol: ;)

Author:  Remmirath [ Fri Nov 25, 2016 5:12 am ]
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Abu Dhabi Grand Prix
1. Lewis Hamilton
2. Nico Rosberg
3. Kimi Raikkonen
4. Daniel Ricciardo
5. Sebastian Vettel
6. Max Verstappen
7. Sergio Perez
8. Nico Hulkenberg
9. Carlos Sainz
10. Fernando Alonso

I feel like the order of the Ferraris and Red Bulls is the big question here, so I'm kind of heging my bets. It's basically damage control at this point for me anyhow.

Author:  robins13 [ Fri Nov 25, 2016 7:20 am ]
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[Abu Dhabi:

1. Hamilton
2. Rosberg
3. Verstappen
4. Ricciardo
5. Raikkonen
6. Vettel
7. Bottas
8. Hulkenberg
9. Perez
10. Alonso

Author:  UnlikeUday [ Fri Nov 25, 2016 7:57 am ]
Post subject:  Re: PF1 Pick 10 Competition - 2016 Edition (Brazil Updated)

My Abu Dhabi Prediction:

1. Lewis Hamilton
2. Max Verstappen
3. Nico Rosberg
4. Sebastian Vettel
5. Sergio Perez
6. Daniel Ricciardo
7. Nico Hulkenberg
8. Kimi Raikkonen
9. Carlos Sainz
10. Valtteri Bottas

Author:  Fountoukos13 [ Fri Nov 25, 2016 8:40 am ]
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Abu Dhabi

1. Hamilton
2. Rosberg
3. Raikkonen
4. Ricciardo
5. Hulkenberg
6. Verstappen
7. Vettel
8. Perez
9. Alonso
10. Massa

Author:  pokerman [ Fri Nov 25, 2016 9:01 am ]
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FP1 Started

Author:  Blackhander [ Fri Nov 25, 2016 9:02 am ]
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Damn it! Got my timings wrong. Well I might as well wait and see what happens now

Author:  cm97 [ Fri Nov 25, 2016 9:02 am ]
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Just missed it... Oh well

1. Hamilton
2. Rosberg
3. Verstappen
4. Vettel
5. Ricciardo
6. Raikkonen
7. Perez
8. Hulkenberg
9. Alonso
10. Bottas

Author:  coulthards chin [ Fri Nov 25, 2016 10:07 am ]
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Balls.

1. Hamilton
2. Rosberg
3. Verstappen
4. Ricciardo
5. Raikkonen
6. Hulkenberg
7. Perez
8. Bottas
9. Alonso
10. Grosjean

Author:  Blackhander [ Fri Nov 25, 2016 10:53 am ]
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P2 is only 3 extra points, I'll put mine in tomorrow 👍

Author:  pokerman [ Fri Nov 25, 2016 12:31 pm ]
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Blackhander wrote:
P2 is only 3 extra points, I'll put mine in tomorrow 👍

Yeah that makes a lot of sense.

Author:  pokerman [ Fri Nov 25, 2016 1:00 pm ]
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FP2 Started

Author:  P-F1 Mod [ Fri Nov 25, 2016 10:15 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: PF1 Pick 10 Competition - 2016 Edition (Brazil Updated)

pokerman wrote:
Blackhander wrote:
P2 is only 3 extra points, I'll put mine in tomorrow 👍

Yeah that makes a lot of sense.

Not to be 'that guy' but in future, to deter people more from taking a second near-free practice skip, is it worth penalising 15 for FP1, AND 18 for FP2 AND 25 for FP3? I realise that's a heavier hit by almost three times [and that I would have taken a 33 point hit rather than 18 earlier this year] but it might be fairer with the extra information that some are getting for what could be a small price.

Obviously thinking for next year at the earliest, and I make a point of not running these games, but just a thought. Feel free to shoot me down :)

Author:  Exediron [ Fri Nov 25, 2016 11:19 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: PF1 Pick 10 Competition - 2016 Edition (Brazil Updated)

P-F1 Mod wrote:
Not to be 'that guy' but in future, to deter people more from taking a second near-free practice skip, is it worth penalising 15 for FP1, AND 18 for FP2 AND 25 for FP3? I realise that's a heavier hit by almost three times [and that I would have taken a 33 point hit rather than 18 earlier this year] but it might be fairer with the extra information that some are getting for what could be a small price.

:thumbup:

It's something that's occurred to me more than once during my time in this competition as well; the penalty gap between FP1 and FP2 is way too slight. The information you get from FP2 is far more relevant to the race, and comes at essentially no cost. I don't know that stacking them together is necessarily the right way to go - that's more a matter of discretion - but I do feel that the actual numbers need tweaking.

As it stands, I've actually considered tactically waiting until FP2 to file predictions when I'm particularly uncertain of the result - it's not too hard to recover 18 points with better knowledge of the pecking order.

Author:  pokerman [ Sat Nov 26, 2016 12:44 am ]
Post subject:  Re: PF1 Pick 10 Competition - 2016 Edition (Brazil Updated)

Exediron wrote:
P-F1 Mod wrote:
Not to be 'that guy' but in future, to deter people more from taking a second near-free practice skip, is it worth penalising 15 for FP1, AND 18 for FP2 AND 25 for FP3? I realise that's a heavier hit by almost three times [and that I would have taken a 33 point hit rather than 18 earlier this year] but it might be fairer with the extra information that some are getting for what could be a small price.

:thumbup:

It's something that's occurred to me more than once during my time in this competition as well; the penalty gap between FP1 and FP2 is way too slight. The information you get from FP2 is far more relevant to the race, and comes at essentially no cost. I don't know that stacking them together is necessarily the right way to go - that's more a matter of discretion - but I do feel that the actual numbers need tweaking.

As it stands, I've actually considered tactically waiting until FP2 to file predictions when I'm particularly uncertain of the result - it's not too hard to recover 18 points with better knowledge of the pecking order.

I wouldn't be too surprised if people have tried tactical late voting in the past and come somewhat unstuck and that's why basically you see no one doing it now, a late entry means that you are basically picking 9 drivers instead of 10.

I remembered when I first started doing the competition I experimented with late voting after FP1, FP2 and FP3 and then compared the results of these with my actual on time picks, I always submit my entry on time. ;)

I have sometimes wondered about late entries and then looked to see if the entrants have used the extra time to good effect and then been baffled by what they have picked. :lol:

They were basically just late entries.

From what I have seen people just forget and by on large are disappointed that they have forgotten and in the past my reaction to a close rival having submitted a late entry is that it puts them on the back foot and I always considered the advantage to be with me.

I am sure if I had given Blackhander the option of submitting a entry just a few minutes late without penalty rather than a much later tactical entry he would have bitten my hand off and I think coulthards chin sums it up quite well for quite a few people after realising they are late, BALLS. :lol:

So in summarisation I think the penalty is enough of a deterrent and also if you over penalise you may run the risk of the competitor losing interest if he ends up with a terrible round.

Author:  Blackhander [ Sat Nov 26, 2016 5:21 am ]
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I would have jumped at any chance for a free vote both times I've been late this year, however it's all part of the game as well so I would never expect one or even ask. First time I simply forgot it was on, yesterday I got my timings an hour out and came on to submit my picks only to see that I had already missed the jump. However due to the numbers once you miss one in my mind you're better off waiting until after fp2 if for no other reason than potential engine penalties.

I think maybe a slight adjustment of the numbers might work, say reduce fp1 penalty to 12 points and increase fp2 to 20. But I don't think adding each successive penalty would work, as one late week could then scupper someone's entire season. Having said that the key is definitely not to be late...

Author:  Blackhander [ Sat Nov 26, 2016 5:40 am ]
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Ok done. With a bit of help from the results so far and a bit of just doing the opposite of what most others are doing here are my late picks

1-Hamilton
2-Rosberg
3-Ricciardo
4-Verstappen
5-Vettel
6-Raikonnen
7-Perez
8-Hulkenberg
9-Bottas
10-Massa

Author:  Exediron [ Sat Nov 26, 2016 8:44 am ]
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Blackhander wrote:
Ok done. With a bit of help from the results so far and a bit of just doing the opposite of what most others are doing here are my late picks

1-Hamilton
2-Rosberg
3-Ricciardo
4-Verstappen
5-Vettel
6-Raikonnen
7-Perez
8-Hulkenberg
9-Bottas
10-Massa

I wish you well with these picks, and it totally isn't because they're very similar to my own! ;)

Author:  pokerman [ Sat Nov 26, 2016 10:00 am ]
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FP3 Started

Author:  pokerman [ Sat Nov 26, 2016 10:27 am ]
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Exediron wrote:
Blackhander wrote:
Ok done. With a bit of help from the results so far and a bit of just doing the opposite of what most others are doing here are my late picks

1-Hamilton
2-Rosberg
3-Ricciardo
4-Verstappen
5-Vettel
6-Raikonnen
7-Perez
8-Hulkenberg
9-Bottas
10-Massa

I wish you well with these picks, and it totally isn't because they're very similar to my own! ;)

Mumbles something about secret entries. :lol:

Author:  pokerman [ Sat Nov 26, 2016 10:34 am ]
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Blackhander wrote:
I would have jumped at any chance for a free vote both times I've been late this year, however it's all part of the game as well so I would never expect one or even ask. First time I simply forgot it was on, yesterday I got my timings an hour out and came on to submit my picks only to see that I had already missed the jump. However due to the numbers once you miss one in my mind you're better off waiting until after fp2 if for no other reason than potential engine penalties.

I think maybe a slight adjustment of the numbers might work, say reduce fp1 penalty to 12 points and increase fp2 to 20. But I don't think adding each successive penalty would work, as one late week could then scupper someone's entire season. Having said that the key is definitely not to be late...

Cheers you very much confirmed what I felt and said.

Author:  Exediron [ Sat Nov 26, 2016 10:39 am ]
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pokerman wrote:
Mumbles something about secret entries. :lol:

Just similar - not the same. :smug:

Although I would find it hilarious if all the secret picks are the same. We did secret picks for the finale in the Top 3 competition last year, and of the five people submitting them, four had identical selections. :lol:

Author:  pokerman [ Sat Nov 26, 2016 10:47 am ]
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Exediron wrote:
pokerman wrote:
Mumbles something about secret entries. :lol:

Just similar - not the same. :smug:

Although I would find it hilarious if all the secret picks are the same. We did secret picks for the finale in the Top 3 competition last year, and of the five people submitting them, four had identical selections. :lol:

Well I guess there is more chance of that with there being 3 picks as opposed to 10 picks? ;)

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