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Proposed Changes (please read before voting)
Poll ended at Thu Mar 17, 2016 9:32 pm
Yes to moving the prediction deadline to any time before the start of FP3 30%  30%  [ 15 ]
No to moving the prediction deadline to any time before the start of FP3 4%  4%  [ 2 ]
--- 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Yes to separate picks for individuals and teams 8%  8%  [ 4 ]
No to separate picks for individuals and teams 26%  26%  [ 13 ]
--- 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Yes to adding a Top Three Knockout Cup alongside the main competition 26%  26%  [ 13 ]
No to adding a Top Three Knockout Cup alongside the main competition 6%  6%  [ 3 ]
Total votes : 50
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2016 9:32 pm 
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As mentioned in the main competition thread, there are a few proposals I'd like everyone's input on ahead of the upcoming season. Since unlike F1 this is at least something of a democracy, the fairest way to settle the issue seems to be a vote.

Proposals on the ballot:

Change prediction deadline to any time before the start of FP3 instead of 20:00 UK time (Exediron)
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The current deadline of 20:00 UK time isn't convenient for me as curator, and it wasn't very convenient for me when I was a competitor either. Considering that we have competitors from all around the world with varying schedules, it seems to me that the best solution is just to allow predictions up to the official start of FP3. There may occasionally be some advantage to waiting to the deadline, but I believe such cases will be rare and the benefit of fewer competitors accidentally missing the deadline should outweigh any slight competitive advantage for the late pickers.

If this proposal fails, I will make the executive decision to switch the deadline to 20:00 EST instead; I can't reliably be available at the UK time deadline to handle anything that comes up.

Add separate team picks and individual picks (Mayhem)
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Suggestion for next season allow different picks between the drivers and constructors standings. Allowing you to make different selections incase you wanna take risk in one championship and not the other.

PlanetF1 Top Three Knockout Cup (Jenson's Understeer)
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After the first six races, the standings would be used to create a knockout tournament. Everybody who had participated in at least one of the first six races would be seeded according to their overall ranking, with the highest seeds receiving a bye into the last 16. How many exactly would depend on how many entrants we had, of course. Using the 21 participants we had last year as an example, the top 11 would advance to the last 16 with those ranked from 12 through to 21 taking part in the qualification round. In the qualification round, the highest seed would face the lowest seed (so 12 vs 21, 13 vs 20, etc.) and that system would continue for the rest of the tournament, with the highest remaining seed always facing the lowest remaining seed, second highest facing the second lowest and so on.

Each round would take place over three races (as below). It would therefore be a best two-out-of-three system. For each individual race, the points scored would be compared and the highest scorer in each match-up would win that race, giving them a win towards the two they need to advance. In the event of neither person winning two of the three races, we would have the following tiebreakers (applied in this order): most points scored over the three races; most perfect predictions over those three races; most 1st places over those three races; highest seed.

Races 7, 8 and 9: Qualification Round
Races 10, 11 and 12: Last 16
Races 13, 14 and 15: Quarter-finals
Races 16, 17 and 18: Semi-finals
Races 19, 20 and 21: Final

[NOTE: Jenson's Understeer would be the curator of this cup competition]

And that's all the proposals I've received/authored.

Voting will continue until Thursday next week (assuming I've set the poll up correctly!); at the close, any proposal that has achieved a majority (51% or more) of support will be added to the ruleset of the competition. Majority will be reckoned against 'No' votes, so if only 3 people vote on an issue and 2 vote 'Yes' the proposal will pass despite 2 'Yes' votes being nowhere near a majority of entrants.

Lastly, please don't vote unless you're actually a participant in the Top Three Championship. I can't stop you, but it wouldn't be very nice.

And don't vote for the dash things.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2016 9:46 pm 
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I said no to prop #2 about splitting votes. Teams standings is just another ranking based on the same picks as everything else.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2016 10:20 pm 
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I voted no, yes, yes

Any time before fp3 would make the deadline a different time for every pick. I liked it being a fixed time personally

Yes to separating the picks b/c as exediron explained it allows you to take a risk in one championship and not the other allowing you to possibly catch up and not risk your status in a championship your leading keeping all championships competitive.

Yes to adding more fun

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2016 11:18 pm 
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I think the change to any time before FP3 is a good idea, I think it was discussed last year too but as we were already part way into a season I didn't want to change things. For us UK users the 8pm cut off was fine but I can imagine it was a pain for many others.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2016 8:17 am 
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I've voted no, no, yes.

No to the later deadline because the more info we get the less challenging it'll make to actually predict the top three, although I don't really have any issue with it happening, especially if it makes life easier for others. I'd just personally not introduce it, that's all.

No to the separate driver and team picks because being able to make two sets of predictions actually feels like less fun, not more. I like the way the team standings are based on our individual picks.

Yes to the Cup idea because the person who proposed it is a pretty solid guy!

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2016 10:05 am 
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Yes, no, yes for me.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2016 11:00 am 
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Yes, no, yes from me.

As Blackflag said earlier, it's a bit of a pain for me trying to figure out when I need to submit due to Aus been several hours different to the UK. This removes that issue.

The knockout competition sounds like a bit of extra fun, just wondering how it will work if someone drops out/stops posting at say round 5 but makes the last 16?

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2016 11:16 am 
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cm97 wrote:
The knockout competition sounds like a bit of extra fun, just wondering how it will work if someone drops out/stops posting at say round 5 but makes the last 16?


Hopefully that doesn't happen, but all I can really do is say that if someone hasn't made a prediction for the last three races, they'll be removed from the cup and replaced by the highest eliminated seed.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2016 6:03 pm 
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I went Yes, No, Yes

1. The Friday 8pm caught me out a few times last year.
2. One choice is enough for me.
3. It's another game but I don't have to do the arrangements so why not?

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2016 12:57 am 
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mcdo wrote:
I went Yes, No, Yes

1. The Friday 8pm caught me out a few times last year.

Just be glad it wasn't Friday 3pm for you! ;)

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 12, 2016 12:17 pm 
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Jenson's Understeer wrote:
cm97 wrote:
The knockout competition sounds like a bit of extra fun, just wondering how it will work if someone drops out/stops posting at say round 5 but makes the last 16?


Hopefully that doesn't happen, but all I can really do is say that if someone hasn't made a prediction for the last three races, they'll be removed from the cup and replaced by the highest eliminated seed.


Sounds good to me, hopefully it won't be needed :thumbup:

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2016 7:18 am 
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Alright everybody, voting has concluded with very clear decisions in every category - I won't be needing to cast any tiebreaker votes here. The results are:

Change prediction deadline to any time before the start of FP3 instead of 20:00 UK time
Yes (88% in favor)

Add separate team picks and individual picks
No (76% opposed)

PlanetF1 Top Three Knockout Cup
Yes (81% in favor)

Thanks everyone for voting, and see you all back in the main thread - you have until 13:59 Melbourne time to finalize your predictions for the race.

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