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Mexican GP

1. Pole: Lewis Hamilton
2. Race winner: Lewis Hamilton
3. Fastest lap: Max Verstappen
4. Quali surprise: Esteban Gutierrez
5. Quali victim: Kimi Raikkonen
6. Overachiever race: Felipe Massa
7. Underperformer race: Kimi Raikkonen
8. First lap hero: Fernando Alonso
9. First lap zero: Carlos Sainz
10. First man out: Esteban Gutierrez
11. Safety cars: 0
12. Race leaders: 2
13. Classified: 17

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Mexico

The Mexican GP was an average scoring round, but with a high variation in scores between players.

The foreshadowed
- Nine out of ten players predicted Lewis Hamilton as the race winner.
- Eight gave him the qualifying win too.

The unfathomables
There were four questions nobody predicted correctly:
- Marcus Ericsson was the quali surprise (+6 places).
- But he lost all those places in the first lap (-6).
- Pascal Wehrlein was the first to retire from the race.
- And he remained the only one, so 21 cars were classified.

Standout predictions of the weekend
- Fountoukos13 was the only one to predict Daniel Ricciardo’s fastest lap.
- Jenson’s Understeer the only one to choose a correct first lap hero with Felipe Nasr (Ocon would have been a correct answer too, +3 places).

Icemanjee1 and Jenson’s Understeer score a mighty 7 points and win the Mexican GP. :thumbup:
Icemanjee1 climbs to second spot in the season ranking, 18 points behind leader Jenson’s Understeer.

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Next up is the Brazilian GP. The WDC ranking is unchanged:
1. Rosberg 2. Hamilton 3. Ricciardo 4. Vettel 5. Räikkönen 6. Verstappen 7. Perez 8. Bottas 9. Hülkenberg 10. Alonso 11. Massa 12. Sainz 13. Grosjean 14. Kvyat 15. Button 16. Magnussen 17. Palmer 18. Wehrlein 19. Vandoorne 20. Gutierrez 21. Ericsson 22. Nasr 23. Haryanto 24. Ocon.

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Brazilian GP

1. Pole: Nico Rosberg
2. Race winner: Lewis Hamilton
3. Fastest lap: Daniel Ricciardo
4. Quali surprise: Marcus Ericsson
5. Quali victim: Romain Grosjean
6. Overachiever race: Jenson Button
7. Underperformer race: Valtteri Bottas
8. First lap hero: Nico Hulkenberg
9. First lap zero: Daniil Kvyat
10. First man out: Pascal Wehrlein
11. Safety cars: 1
12. Race leaders: 2
13. Classified: 16

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Brazilian GP

1. Pole: Nico Rosberg
2. Race winner: Nico Rosberg
3. Fastest lap: Kimi Raikkonen
4. Quali surprise: Marcus Ericsson
5. Quali victim: Romain Grosjean
6. Overachiever race: Nico Hulkenberg
7. Underperformer race: Fernando Alonso
8. First lap hero: Nico Hulkenberg
9. First lap zero: Marcus Ericsson
10. First man out: Esteban Ocon
11. Safety cars: 1
12. Race leaders: 3
13. Classified: 19

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1. Pole: Lewis Hamilton
2. Race winner: Lewis Hamilton
3. Fastest lap: Felipe Massa
4. Quali surprise: Felipe Nasr
5. Quali victim: Sergio Perez
6. Overachiever race: Jenson Button
7. Underperformer race: Romain Grosjean
8. First Lap hero: Fernando Alonso
9. First lap zero: Kimi Raikkonen
10. First man out: Nico Hulkenberg
11. Safety cars: 1
12. Race leaders: 3
13. Classified: 16

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Brazilian Grand Prix
1. Pole: Lewis Hamilton
2. Race winner: Lewis Hamilton
3. Fastest lap: Nico Rosberg
4. Quali surprise: Jenson Button
5. Quali victim: Sergio Perez
6. Overachiever race: Jenson Button
7. Underperformer race: Romain Grosjean
8. First Lap hero: Nico Hulkenberg
9. First lap zero: Daniil Kvyat
10. First man out: Fernando Alonso
11. Safety cars: 0
12. Race leaders: 2
13. Classified: 18

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Brazil
1. Pole: Hamilton
2. Race winner: Hamilton
3. Fastest lap: Riccardo
4. Quali surprise: Button
5. Quali victim: Perez
6. Overachiever race: button
7. Under performer race: Perez
8. First Lap hero: massa
9. First lap zero: Rosberg
10. First man out: hulkenberg
11. Safety cars: 1
12. Race leaders: 2
13. Classified: 18

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Brazilian Grand Prix 2016

1. Pole: Lewis Hamilton
2. Race winner: Nico Rosberg
3. Fastest lap: Lewis Hamilton
4. Quali surprise: Esteban Gutierrez
5. Quali victim: Romain Grosjean
6. Overachiever race: Felipe Massa
7. Underperformer race: Carlos Sainz Jnr
8. First Lap hero: Fernando Alonso
9. First lap zero: Valtteri Bottas
10. First man out: Daniil Kvyat
11. Safety cars: 1
12. Race leaders: 3`
13. Classified: 19

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Brazilian Grand Prix 2016

1. Pole: Lewis Hamilton
2. Race winner: Nico Rosberg
3. Fastest lap: Daniel Ricciardo
4. Quali surprise: Esteban Gutierrez
5. Quali victim: Fernando Alonso
6. Overachiever race: Nico Hulkenberg
7. Underperformer race: Fernando Alonso
8. First Lap hero: Esteban Ocon
9. First lap zero: Esteban Gutierrez
10. First man out: Esteban Gutierrez
11. Safety cars: 1
12. Race leaders: 2
13. Classified: 20


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Brazil
1. Pole: Hamilton
2. Race winner: Hamilton
3. Fastest lap: Verstappen
4. Quali surprise: Button
5. Quali victim: Bottas
6. Overachiever race: Hulkenberg
7. Underperformer race: Grosjean
8. First Lap hero: Alonso
9. First lap zero: Kvyat
10. First man out: Nasr
11. Safety cars: 2
12. Race leaders: 2
13. Classified: 19


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Brazilian GP

1. Pole: Lewis Hamilton
2. Race winner: Lewis Hamilton
3. Fastest lap: Max Verstappen
4. Quali surprise: Esteban Guttierez
5. Quali victim: Fernando Alonso
6. Overachiever race: Jenson Button
7. Underperformer race: Valtteri Bottas
8. First lap hero: Pascal Werhlein
9. First lap zero: Daniil Kvyat
10. First man out: Nico Rosberg
11. Safety cars: 2
12. Race leaders: 3
13. Classified: 18

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Brazilian GP

1. Pole: Lewis Hamilton
2. Race winner: Lewis Hamilton
3. Fastest lap: Max Verstappen
4. Quali surprise: Jolyon Palmer
5. Quali victim: Romain Grosjean
6. Overachiever race: Max Verstappen
7. Underperformer race: Sergio Perez
8. First lap hero: Fernando Alonso
9. First lap zero: Esteban Gutierrez
10. First man out: Romain Grosjean
11. Safety cars: 2
12. Race leaders: 2
13. Classified: 17

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Brazilian Grand Prix 2016

1. Pole: Lewis Hamilton
2. Race winner: Nico Rosberg
3. Fastest lap: Daniel Ricciardo
4. Quali surprise: Esteban Gutierrez
5. Quali victim: Fernando Alonso
6. Overachiever race: Nico Hulkenberg
7. Underperformer race: Fernando Alonso
8. First Lap hero: Esteban Ocon
9. First lap zero: Esteban Gutierrez
10. First man out: Esteban Gutierrez
11. Safety cars: 1
12. Race leaders: 2
13. Classified: 20

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3. Fastest lap: Lewis Hamilton
4. Quali surprise: Jolyon Palmer
5. Quali victim: Sergio Perez
6. Overachiever race: Jolyon Palmer
7. Underperformer race: Sergio Perez


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Brazil
The Brazilian GP was a low scoring round with a total of 23 correct answers (average is 35).

The foreshadowed
- Eight out of ten players predicted the correct pole sitter in Lewis Hamilton.
- Seven predicted his race win too.

The unfathomables
There were seven questions nobody predicted correctly:
- Felipe Nasr was the overachiever of the race (+13 places).
- Daniel Ricciardo became the race underperformer (-5 places).
- Perhaps a bit mean, but as all drivers on the grid drove the first lap in procession behind the safety car, no driver can be classified a first lap hero or zero.
- Marcus Ericsson was the first to retire (not Romain Grosjean who didn’t make it to the grid)
- It wasn’t easy to keep track, but there were four separate safety car spells.
- The race saw only one leader.

Standout prediction of the weekend
- Black_Flag_11 was the only one to predict a correct quali victim in Valtteri Bottas (-3 places; Sainz and Ricciardo would have been correct too).

The win in the wet of Interlagos is shared between Black_Flag_11 and Herb with 4 points. :thumbup: That's a third GP win for both this season.

Jenson's Understeer's lead is now 19 points with one race to go. As the maximum score in a race weekend (including a bonus that has proven to be unreachable) is 20 points, Icemanjee1 is still in contention, theoretically at least.

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Last up is Abu Dhabi. The WDC ranking now:
1. Rosberg 2. Hamilton 3. Ricciardo 4. Vettel 5. Verstappen 6. Räikkönen 7. Perez 8. Bottas 9. Hülkenberg 10. Alonso 11. Massa 12. Sainz 13. Grosjean 14. Kvyat 15. Button 16. Magnussen 17. Nasr 18. Palmer 19. Wehrlein 20. Vandoorne 21. Gutierrez 22. Ericsson 23. Ocon 24. Haryanto.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2016 6:27 pm 
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TypingChicane wrote:
Brazil
The Brazilian GP was a low scoring round with a total of 23 correct answers (average is 35).

The foreshadowed
- Eight out of ten players predicted the correct pole sitter in Lewis Hamilton.
- Seven predicted his race win too.

The unfathomables
There were seven questions nobody predicted correctly:
- Felipe Nasr was the overachiever of the race (+13 places).
- Daniel Ricciardo became the race underperformer (-5 places).
- Perhaps a bit mean, but as all drivers on the grid drove the first lap in procession behind the safety car, no driver can be classified a first lap hero or zero.
- Marcus Ericsson was the first to retire (not Romain Grosjean who didn’t make it to the grid)
- It wasn’t easy to keep track, but there were four separate safety car spells.
- The race saw only one leader.

Standout prediction of the weekend
- Black_Flag_11 was the only one to predict a correct quali victim in Valtteri Bottas (-3 places; Sainz and Ricciardo would have been correct too).

The win in the wet of Interlagos is shared between Black_Flag_11 and Herb with 4 points. :thumbup: That's a third GP win for both this season.

Jenson's Understeer's lead is now 19 points with one race to go. As the maximum score in a race weekend (including a bonus that has proven to be unreachable) is 20 points, Icemanjee1 is still in contention, theoretically at least.

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Last up is Abu Dhabi. The WDC ranking now:
1. Rosberg 2. Hamilton 3. Ricciardo 4. Vettel 5. Verstappen 6. Räikkönen 7. Perez 8. Bottas 9. Hülkenberg 10. Alonso 11. Massa 12. Sainz 13. Grosjean 14. Kvyat 15. Button 16. Magnussen 17. Nasr 18. Palmer 19. Wehrlein 20. Vandoorne 21. Gutierrez 22. Ericsson 23. Ocon 24. Haryanto.


First of all how did i actually screw the second part of the season that much...
Also about the first lap hero/zero, in the British GP we had the same start (behind SC) and you awarded the points to all of us.
It doesn't make any difference other than giving everyone 2 points.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2016 6:47 pm 
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Fountoukos13 wrote:
TypingChicane wrote:
Brazil
The Brazilian GP was a low scoring round with a total of 23 correct answers (average is 35).

The foreshadowed
- Eight out of ten players predicted the correct pole sitter in Lewis Hamilton.
- Seven predicted his race win too.

The unfathomables
There were seven questions nobody predicted correctly:
- Felipe Nasr was the overachiever of the race (+13 places).
- Daniel Ricciardo became the race underperformer (-5 places).
- Perhaps a bit mean, but as all drivers on the grid drove the first lap in procession behind the safety car, no driver can be classified a first lap hero or zero.
- Marcus Ericsson was the first to retire (not Romain Grosjean who didn’t make it to the grid)
- It wasn’t easy to keep track, but there were four separate safety car spells.
- The race saw only one leader.

Standout prediction of the weekend
- Black_Flag_11 was the only one to predict a correct quali victim in Valtteri Bottas (-3 places; Sainz and Ricciardo would have been correct too).

The win in the wet of Interlagos is shared between Black_Flag_11 and Herb with 4 points. :thumbup: That's a third GP win for both this season.

Jenson's Understeer's lead is now 19 points with one race to go. As the maximum score in a race weekend (including a bonus that has proven to be unreachable) is 20 points, Icemanjee1 is still in contention, theoretically at least.

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Last up is Abu Dhabi. The WDC ranking now:
1. Rosberg 2. Hamilton 3. Ricciardo 4. Vettel 5. Verstappen 6. Räikkönen 7. Perez 8. Bottas 9. Hülkenberg 10. Alonso 11. Massa 12. Sainz 13. Grosjean 14. Kvyat 15. Button 16. Magnussen 17. Nasr 18. Palmer 19. Wehrlein 20. Vandoorne 21. Gutierrez 22. Ericsson 23. Ocon 24. Haryanto.


First of all how did i actually screw the second part of the season that much...
Also about the first lap hero/zero, in the British GP we had the same start (behind SC) and you awarded the points to all of us.
It doesn't make any difference other than giving everyone 2 points.


Hey now, some of us are still trying to reach 100 points you know!

But this is a very valid point. You expect these sort of inconsistencies from the F1 stewards, not TypingChicane ;)

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Jenson's Understeer wrote:
Fountoukos13 wrote:
TypingChicane wrote:
Brazil
The Brazilian GP was a low scoring round with a total of 23 correct answers (average is 35).

The foreshadowed
- Eight out of ten players predicted the correct pole sitter in Lewis Hamilton.
- Seven predicted his race win too.

The unfathomables
There were seven questions nobody predicted correctly:
- Felipe Nasr was the overachiever of the race (+13 places).
- Daniel Ricciardo became the race underperformer (-5 places).
- Perhaps a bit mean, but as all drivers on the grid drove the first lap in procession behind the safety car, no driver can be classified a first lap hero or zero.
- Marcus Ericsson was the first to retire (not Romain Grosjean who didn’t make it to the grid)
- It wasn’t easy to keep track, but there were four separate safety car spells.
- The race saw only one leader.

Standout prediction of the weekend
- Black_Flag_11 was the only one to predict a correct quali victim in Valtteri Bottas (-3 places; Sainz and Ricciardo would have been correct too).

The win in the wet of Interlagos is shared between Black_Flag_11 and Herb with 4 points. :thumbup: That's a third GP win for both this season.

Jenson's Understeer's lead is now 19 points with one race to go. As the maximum score in a race weekend (including a bonus that has proven to be unreachable) is 20 points, Icemanjee1 is still in contention, theoretically at least.

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Last up is Abu Dhabi. The WDC ranking now:
1. Rosberg 2. Hamilton 3. Ricciardo 4. Vettel 5. Verstappen 6. Räikkönen 7. Perez 8. Bottas 9. Hülkenberg 10. Alonso 11. Massa 12. Sainz 13. Grosjean 14. Kvyat 15. Button 16. Magnussen 17. Nasr 18. Palmer 19. Wehrlein 20. Vandoorne 21. Gutierrez 22. Ericsson 23. Ocon 24. Haryanto.


First of all how did i actually screw the second part of the season that much...
Also about the first lap hero/zero, in the British GP we had the same start (behind SC) and you awarded the points to all of us.
It doesn't make any difference other than giving everyone 2 points.


Hey now, some of us are still trying to reach 100 points you know!

But this is a very valid point. You expect these sort of inconsistencies from the F1 stewards, not TypingChicane ;)


Ouch... Shots fired!

I would like to say some premature congratulations for your championship win as you need to score 0 and icemanjee1 to get all questions right for you to lose it.

Hopefully i can hang on to 3rd after some horrible weekends.

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I think the mistake was made at Silverstone, not in Brazil. Perhaps I should deduct 2 points from everyone. :twisted:

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I think the mistake was made at Silverstone, not in Brazil. Perhaps I should deduct 2 points from everyone. :twisted:


So are you going to leave it as it is or will you change anything?

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TypingChicane wrote:
I think the mistake was made at Silverstone, not in Brazil. Perhaps I should deduct 2 points from everyone. :twisted:


Don't do that - removing two points might mean some of you end up with a negative total :lol:

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Jenson's Understeer wrote:
TypingChicane wrote:
I think the mistake was made at Silverstone, not in Brazil. Perhaps I should deduct 2 points from everyone. :twisted:


Don't do that - removing two points might mean some of you end up with a negative total :lol:

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Fountoukos13 wrote:
TypingChicane wrote:
I think the mistake was made at Silverstone, not in Brazil. Perhaps I should deduct 2 points from everyone. :twisted:


So are you going to leave it as it is or will you change anything?

If anyone has difficulty accepting this inconsistency, I will change it. But as you said earlier, it doesn't change our scores relative to each other. And do we really want Jenson's Understeer to reach 100 this cheaply? :-P
For next year though, I will add a rule clarification.

Funny thing is, I actually did remember to check the scoring of previous races that started behind the safety car. But it was Monaco that I looked at, where Kvyat's car had a failure on the first lap, so only the drivers behind him were classified as first lap heroes (and Kvyat as the zero). I had forgotten that Silverstone was a safety car start too.

Another change that I want to propose for next year, is a new bonus system. The current one has become all but a running joke now.
The idea I have in mind is that everybody nominates one of the 13 question each race weekend as their bonus question (play a joker, if you like). If the answer of that question turns out to be correct, the bonus score is determined by the number of players that gave a wrong answer to that same question. This should add more strategy to the game (it's very much risk-reward to choose the question you want to nominate) and make the variation in scores less predictable. It will replace the current bonus system that never was.
What do you all think?

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TypingChicane wrote:
Fountoukos13 wrote:
TypingChicane wrote:
I think the mistake was made at Silverstone, not in Brazil. Perhaps I should deduct 2 points from everyone. :twisted:


So are you going to leave it as it is or will you change anything?

If anyone has difficulty accepting this inconsistency, I will change it. But as you said earlier, it doesn't change our scores relative to each other. And do we really want Jenson's Understeer to reach 100 this cheaply? :-P
For next year though, I will add a rule clarification.

Funny thing is, I actually did remember to check the scoring of previous races that started behind the safety car. But it was Monaco that I looked at, where Kvyat's car had a failure on the first lap, so only the drivers behind him were classified as first lap heroes (and Kvyat as the zero). I had forgotten that Silverstone was a safety car start too.

Another change that I want to propose for next year, is a new bonus system. The current one has become all but a running joke now.
The idea I have in mind is that everybody nominates one of the 13 question each race weekend as their bonus question (play a joker, if you like). If the answer of that question turns out to be correct, the bonus score is determined by the number of players that gave a wrong answer to that same question. This should add more strategy to the game (it's very much risk-reward to choose the question you want to nominate) and make the variation in scores less predictable. It will replace the current bonus system that never was.
What do you all think?


Yes. Yes we do ;)

As for the bonus idea, I really like that. Not only does it actually make the bonus achievable but, as you say, it adds an element of strategy. If it were in place now then you could go for a 'safer' option of, say, Lewis Hamilton on pole in Abu Dhabi, knowing most people would make the same prediction and therefore the wrong answers - and what the bonus would be worth - would be relatively small but more likely to be achieved. Alternatively you could go for an off-the-chart prediction you don't expect anyone else will make, knowing if it comes in you'll get a huge bonus but that it is a lot less likely to happen. Good idea :thumbup:

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Woo - another shared win!

I only win when the leaders have issues. Just call me Rosberg ;).

Love the new bonus idea, I think that's a much better system. Hope we can get a few more players in for 2017!

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Herb wrote:
Love the new bonus idea, I think that's a much better system. Hope we can get a few more players in for 2017!

The more players we get, the bigger the potential bonus!

I'm pleased that all 10 of us have consistently played all through the season. :thumbup: The game could have fizzled out if some of you had stopped playing at some point.

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Abu Dhabi Grand Prix 2016

1. Pole: Nico Rosberg
2. Race winner: Lewis Hamilton
3. Fastest lap: Daniel Ricciardo
4. Quali surprise: Esteban Gutierrez
5. Quali victim: Felipe Nasr
6. Overachiever race: Jenson Button
7. Underperformer race: Romain Grosjean
8. First Lap hero: Pascal Wehrlein
9. First lap zero: Kimi Raikkonen
10. First man out: Esteban Gutierrez
11. Safety cars: 0
12. Race leaders: 2
13. Classified: 20

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I'm going to break from my tradition of waiting until after FP2 to predict (although I will almost certainly make some modifications after FP2!)

1. Pole: Lewis Hamilton
2. Race winner: Lewis Hamilton
3. Fastest lap: Nico Hulkenberg
4. Quali surprise: Esteban Gutierrez
5. Quali victim: Fernando Alonso
6. Overachiever race: Nico Hulkenberg
7. Underperformer race: Romain Grosjean
8. First Lap hero: Fernando Alonso
9. First lap zero: Felipe Massa
10. First man out: Felipe Massa
11. Safety cars: 0
12. Race leaders: 2
13. Classified: 18

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Abu Dhabi 2016

1. Pole: Lewis Hamilton
2. Race winner: Lewis Hamilton
3. Fastest lap: Daniel Ricciardo
4. Quali surprise: Esteban Gutierrez
5. Quali victim: Fernando Alonso
6. Overachiever race: Felipe Massa
7. Underperformer race: Carlos Sainz
8. First Lap hero: Fernando Alonso
9. First lap zero: Kimi Raikkonen
10. First man out: Pascal Wehrlein
11. Safety cars: 0
12. Race leaders: 2
13. Classified: 20

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1. Pole: Hamilton
2. Race winner: Hamilton
3. Fastest lap: Vettel
4. Quali surprise: Alonso
5. Quali victim: Massa
6. Overachiever race: Sainz
7. Underperformer race: Hulkenberg
8. First Lap hero: Magnussen
9. First lap zero: Hulkenberg
10. First man out: Hulkenberg
11. Safety cars: 0
12. Race leaders: 2
13. Classified: 20


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Abu Dhabi Grand Prix
1. Pole: Lewis Hamilton
2. Race winner: Lewis Hamilton
3. Fastest lap: Max Verstappen
4. Quali surprise: Esteban Gutierrez
5. Quali victim: Jenson Button
6. Overachiever race: Esteban Ocon
7. Underperformer race: Felipe Massa
8. First Lap hero: Fernando Alonso
9. First lap zero: Esteban Gutierrez
10. First man out: Daniil Kvyat
11. Safety cars: 0
12. Race leaders: 1
13. Classified: 20

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1. Pole: Hamilton
2. Race winner: Hamilton
3. Fastest lap: Versteppen
4. Quali surprise: Guitierez
5. Quali victim: Alonso
6. Overachiever race: alonso
7. Under performer race: Massa
8. First Lap hero: alonso
9. First lap zero: Rosberg
10. First man out: hulkenberg
11. Safety cars: 1
12. Race leaders: 2
13. Classified: 19

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Abu dhabi
1. Pole: Hamilton
2. Race winner: Hamilton
3. Fastest lap: Vettel
4. Quali surprise: Gutierrez
5. Quali victim: Ricciardo
6. Overachiever race: Hulkenberg
7. Under performer race: Massa
8. First Lap hero: Alonso
9. First lap zero: Gutierrez
10. First man out: Palmer
11. Safety cars: 1
12. Race leaders: 2
13. Classified: 19


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1. Pole: Lewis Hamilton
2. Race winner: Lewis Hamilton
3. Fastest lap: Sebastian Vettel
4. Quali surprise: Esteban Gutierrez
5. Quali victim: Felipe Nasr
6. Overachiever race: Kimi Raikkonen
7. Underperformer race: Daniil Kvyat
8. First Lap hero: Fernando Alonso
9. First lap zero: Nico Hulkenberg
10. First man out: Daniil Kvyat
11. Safety cars: 0
12. Race leaders: 3`
13. Classified: 20

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1. Pole: Lewis Hamilton
2. Race winner: Lewis Hamilton
3. Fastest lap: Kimi Raikkonen
4. Quali surprise: Esteban Gutierrez
5. Quali victim: Romain Grosjean
6. Overachiever race: Nico Hulkenberg
7. Underperformer race: Valteri Bottas
8. First Lap hero: Fernando Alonso
9. First lap zero: Esteban Gutierrez
10. First man out: Romain Grosjean
11. Safety cars: 0
12. Race leaders: 1`
13. Classified: 21

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Abu Dhabi

1. Pole: Lewis Hamilton
2. Race winner: Lewis Hamilton
3. Fastest lap: Daniel Ricciardo
4. Quali surprise: Esteban Gutierrez
5. Quali victim: Carlos Sainz
6. Overachiever race: Nico Hulkenberg
7. Underperformer race: Carlos Sainz
8. First lap hero: Fernando Alonso
9. First lap zero: Esteban Gutierrez
10. First man out: Esteban Gutierrez
11. Safety cars: 0
12. Race leaders: 2
13. Classified: 21

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Abu Dhabi

The F1 2016 showdown in the desert of Abu Dhabi delivered a fairly high scoring round with 45 correct answers (average is 36).

The foreshadowed
- All 10 players predicted the race win by Lewis Hamilton.
- Nine also foresaw his qualifying win.
- Also nine had Esteban Gutierrez as the quali surprise (+8 places).
- Eight predicted there would be no safety cars.

The unfathomables
There were six questions that found no match:
- Like in the last race, Daniel Ricciardo became the race underperformer (-2 places).
- Felipe Nasr won 5 places in the first lap to become the FL hero.
- Max Verstappen lost 13 spots and was the first lap zero.
- Kevin Magnussen was the first to retire.
- Abu Dhabi saw no less than 4 race leaders.
- Only 17 cars were classified.

Standout prediction of the weekend
- TypingChicane was the only one to predict the correct quali victim in Carlos Sainz (-9 places).

The GP win goes to TypingChicane with 6 points, a fourth win this season, all of them after the summer break! :thumbup:

Finally, the F1 Oracle of the 2016 season has been revealed...
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It's Jenson’s Understeer!


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Thank you all for playing this debut season of the F1 Oracle!
If you think there are improvements to be made, please leave a comment.
Hope to see you all again next year!

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Well played, and congratulations to Jenson's Understeer! :thumbup: Interesting statistics for the end result. Apparently next season I really need to work on guessing the race underperformer and first man out... although I'm guessing if anything things will be more unpredictable next season!

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Interesting to see how the overall statistics break down. Some of the totals are a little off (math was never my strong point but I'm reasonably confident that our collective correct predictions for fastest lap, for instance, do not add up to 24 :lol: ) but just looking at the best scores in each paints a picture. It seems the categories which are more subjective to luck/randomness ultimately ended up being the toughest to predict, while those which are more dictated by the performance of the cars/drivers were where we all scored highest. Perhaps not all that surprising!

Thanks for running this, TypingChicane. I've really enjoyed it and I'm very much looking forward to defending my title next year.

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Jenson's Understeer wrote:
Some of the totals are a little off (math was never my strong point but I'm reasonably confident that our collective correct predictions for fastest lap, for instance, do not add up to 24 :lol: )

Right, thanks. That row of totals in the last table was not correct. Corrected now.

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