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PostPosted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 2:36 pm 
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USA:

Mercedes - p and 6
Ferrari - p and 6
Red Bull - p and 6
Renault - 10 and f
Haas - f and f
Mclaren - 10 and f
Racing Point - f and nf
Alfa Romeo - 10 and f
Toro Rosso - 10 and f
Williams - f and f


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I think I got 19, and I make that my highest score of the year!

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:26 pm 
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2019 F1 Team Pick Championship Round 19

USA Grand Prix Result









Mercedes1, p
Ferrari6, nf
Red Bullp, 6
Renault6, 10
Haasf, f
McLaren10, 10
Racing Point10, f
Alfa Romeof, f
Toro Rossof, f
Williamsf, nf


USA Grand Prix Points Table










Pos.PlayerRace pts
1 PF-1 Mod 18
1 Charles Le Brad 18
3 Robins13 17
4Exediron 16
4Remmirath 16
6Icemanjee115
7Tim3003 14
8Jenson's Understeer13
9Herb10


It was a lacklustre Ferrari performance, so in general those who played safe and had Mercedes to win scored well. However as the only one to get Kubica's non-finish PF1-Mod scores a first win, shared with Charles LeBrad for getting 3 other teams right too. Charles alone got Renault correct this time. Mclaren and Renault's double points finishes helped many, however Kvyat's last lap penalty which cost him 10th place lost everyone 2pts.

Overall Charles Le Brad recovers 2nd place after a poor race for Tim003 and Jenson's Understeer. Herb drops to 6th, leap-frogged by Icemanjee1 and Robins13. With the table closing up it's conceivable that any of the top 6 could win!

Overall Points Table












Pos.PlayerTotal ptsWinsPodiums
1 Tim3003 276 3 7
2 Charles LeBrad 271 6 5
3 Jenson's Understeer 269 4 4
4Icemanjee126416
4Robins1326434
6Herb26032
7Exediron25424
8Remmirath24834
9P-F1 Mod24111
10Black_Flag_116310
11Jezza13500


Round 20 is the Brazilian Grand Prix on November 17th.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 13, 2019 8:00 pm 
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Brazil

Mercedes 1 P
Ferrari P 6
Red Bull 6 10
Mclaren 10 10
Renault 10 6
Toro Rosso F F
Alfa F F
Racing Point F F
Haas F F
Williams F F


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 14, 2019 3:06 am 
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Brazil

Mercedes 1 P
Ferrari 6 6
Red Bull P 6
Mclaren 10 10
Renault 10 NF
Toro Rosso 10 F
Alfa F NF
Racing Point F NF
Haas F NF
Williams NF F

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 14, 2019 2:54 pm 
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Brazil

Mercedes P P
Ferrari 6 6
Red Bull 1 6
Mclaren 10 10
Renault 10 NF
Toro Rosso NF F
Alfa NF NF
Racing Point F NF
Haas 10 NF
Williams F F

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 14, 2019 10:56 pm 
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Brazil

Mercedes: 1 P
Red Bull: P 6
Ferrari: 6 6
McLaren: 10 10
Renault: 10 F
Toro Rosso: F F
Alfa Romeo: F F
Racing Point: 10 F
Haas: F F
Williams: F F

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 16, 2019 4:26 am 
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MERCEDES - 1 / p
FERRARI - 6 / 6
RED BULL - p / 6
RENAULT - 10 / F
HAAS - F / NF
McLAREN - 10 / NF
RACING POINT - 10 / F
ALFA ROMEO - F / F
TORO ROSSO - 10 / F
WILLIAMS - F / F

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Brazilian Grand Prix:

MERCEDES: p / 6
RED BULL: p / 6
FERRARI : 1 / 6
McLAREN: 10 / 10
RENAULT: 10 / nf
TORO ROSSO: 10 / nf
ALFA ROMEO: f / f
RACING POINT: f / f
HAAS: f / nf
WILLIAMS: f / nf

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 16, 2019 9:37 am 
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MERCEDES - 1 / p
FERRARI - p / 6
RED BULL - p / 6
RENAULT - 10 / F
HAAS - F / NF
McLAREN - 10 / 10
RACING POINT - 10 / F
ALFA ROMEO - F / F
TORO ROSSO - 10 / F
WILLIAMS - F / NF


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 16, 2019 12:20 pm 
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Brazil

Mercedes - 1 and p
Ferrari - p and 6
Red Bull - p and 6
Renault - 10 and f
Haas - f and nf
Mclaren - 10 and 10
Racing Point - 10 and f
Alfa Romeo - 10 and f
Toro Rosso - 10 and f
Williams - f and f

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Pick 10|'19: ,'18: P9 ,'17: P8,'16: P12,'14: P24
Top 3|'19: /'18: P7,Team: P2/'17: P4,Team: P3 /'16: P8,Team: P2
Group Pick'em|'19: /'18: P3/'17: P6/'16: P6
F1 Oracle|'17: P3{3W}/'16: P2{4W}


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 16, 2019 12:38 pm 
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Brazil:

Mercedes - p and p
Ferrari - 1 and 6
Red Bull - p and 6
Renault - 10 and f
Haas - f and f
Mclaren - 10 and f
Racing Point - f and f
Alfa Romeo - 10 and f
Toro Rosso - 10 and f
Williams - f and f


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 18, 2019 11:10 am 
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2019 F1 Team Pick Championship Round 20

Brazilian Grand Prix Result









Mercedes10, nf
Ferrarif, f
Red Bull1, f
Renault6, f
Haasf, f
McLarenp, 10
Racing Point10, f
Alfa Romeo6, 6
Toro Rossop, 10
Williamsf, f


Brazilian Grand Prix Points Table










Pos.PlayerRace pts
1 Jenson's Understeer 11
2 Icemanjee1 10
2 Tim3003 10
2 Exediron 10
5Charles Le Brad 9
6Robins138
7Herb 6
8PF-1 Mod5
8Remmirath5



After a chaotic last few laps for the leading teams Brazil was not surprisingly a low scoring race. Only Herb scored even 1 point for the top 3 teams, going for a Verstappen win. Otherwise with many of the middle order teams inheriting top 6 and podium places it came down to who scored highest with the lower order finishers. Jenson's Understeer did best with Haas, Racing Point and Williams correct, and took the win. The three players tied for 2nd place got 2 of those 3 teams right. Charles LeBrad did too, but missed out completely with Torro Rosso.

Overall Jenson's Understeer ties Charles Le Brad's for 2nd place but Tim003 maintains a good lead. Icemanjee1 moves clear of Robins13 in 4th.

Overall Points Table












Pos.PlayerTotal ptsWinsPodiums
1 Tim3003 286 3 8
2 Charles LeBrad 280 6 5
2 Jenson's Understeer 280 5 4
4Icemanjee127417
5Robins1327234
6Herb26632
7Exediron26424
8Remmirath25334
9P-F1 Mod24611
10Black_Flag_116310
11Jezza13500


Round 21, the final round, is the Abu Dhabi Grand Prix on December 1st.

As I'm in contention, could someone who's not in the top 4 volunteer to accept the forecasts of the top 4 - Tim3003, Charles LeBrad, Jenson's Understeer, Icemanjee1 - via personal message please? If you then just post them some time after the race has started I'll then score it as usual.


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Ferrari and Stroll, though classified, are listed as DNF on the FIA results, is that relevant?

I'll take the results if you want.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 18, 2019 4:39 pm 
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P-F1 Mod wrote:
Ferrari and Stroll, though classified, are listed as DNF on the FIA results, is that relevant?

I'll take the results if you want.


Thanks for that.

Re the Brazil results: on the FIA site, both Ferraris and Stroll are classified, despite being listed as DNF. My thinking was that this effectively makes them finishers. This (I think) is the rule I have used in all races so far. See Germany where Bottas was NF but Gasly was F in P14, despite both being DNF.

https://www.formula1.com/en/results.html/2019/races/1019/brazil/race-result.html

According to Wikipedia the rule is that any driver completing 90% of race distance is classified.


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It highlights how out of date and terrible the 'classified finishers' rule is. Back in The Day -- when less than the number of points positions would often finish a Grand Prix -- it made sense. Now, it does little except for muddy the statistics. Nobody thinks of someone who made it 90% of the way through a GP as having done something special these days.

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Exediron wrote:
It highlights how out of date and terrible the 'classified finishers' rule is. Back in The Day -- when less than the number of points positions would often finish a Grand Prix -- it made sense. Now, it does little except for muddy the statistics. Nobody thinks of someone who made it 90% of the way through a GP as having done something special these days.


In Spain 2001 Hakkinen retired from the lead on the last lap and was classified 9th, a lap down but first of the lapped runners. Those points could have made a difference in the championship had it happened today.

The problem is, if you scrap 90%, where does the cut-off go? 95%, 98%. There are often finishers 2 or 3 laps down...


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tim3003 wrote:
Exediron wrote:
It highlights how out of date and terrible the 'classified finishers' rule is. Back in The Day -- when less than the number of points positions would often finish a Grand Prix -- it made sense. Now, it does little except for muddy the statistics. Nobody thinks of someone who made it 90% of the way through a GP as having done something special these days.


In Spain 2001 Hakkinen retired from the lead on the last lap and was classified 9th, a lap down but first of the lapped runners. Those points could have made a difference in the championship had it happened today.
The problem is, if you scrap 90%, where does the cut-off go? 95%, 98%. There are often finishers 2 or 3 laps down...

Same lap as the last finisher?

I'll admit I just don't like it because I really like stats, and it throws up garbage stats.

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