bourbon19 wrote:
froze wrote:
I see this poll mostly as an attempt to stir the pot than anything else.
Mind if I cut in too? Ok, so if you're talking about 2012 spec Raikkonen, the one who beat everyone else except Vettel and Alonso, and classify him as tier 2, then which tier do the drivers behind him belong to?
See how you can spin that spoon in the other way too?

Well yeah, the poll is a classic loaded question definitely meant to stir the pot. To vote who you think best of the three, you have to acknowledge that all three are 2nd tier.
It is like:
Which of the following type of apples taste the best?
Green Apples
Tangerines
Bananas
Doesn't make it better to say; "Yeah I know you might not all agree they are all apples, but that is the poll, so just vote." Even if everyone participating disagrees they are apples, if most feel bananas are the best tasting and vote for them, you can conclude at the end that Bananas are most people's favorite type of apple.
I understand your point but the OP said about tier 2. The gap between Raikkonen and the rest tier 2 drivers not only on this poll but also on last year's results (3rd - 5th - 6th) and number of podiums (7-6-4) shows you that he is definitely at the top of tier 2 and makes you consider him even tier 1 driver.
If you compare him to Hamilton for example the years that both raced were 1st-2nd, 3rd-1st, 6th-5th, 3rd-4th. Apart from 2008 they were pretty close to each other almost identical amount of points. The only difference in my opinion between the 2 is the fact that Lewis has more poles and wins while Kimi makes the gap with his consistency and the bigger amount of podiums.
So the question that i have to ask is: Since in the end they provide the same results are they both tier 2 drivers or are both tier 1 drivers?
For me both are tier 1 drivers and i think this is what should be cleared because Raikkonen is not only considered top tier driver by the fans but also from the people inside F1 like Domenicalli and Whitmarsh and their opinion is more important than mine and the rest of us