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RIP F1 2019 season

I think last year should be OK.....

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I still expect the reports are correct and it’ll be cancelled. Part of me wonders if there are negotiations going on behind the scenes with some parties desperate for the race to go ahead.


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Less than 5 hours away from fp1 and still no official announcement from f1. I think i know why it is so often referred to as a circus. Jeez...


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Adam Cooper reporting that the two-seater is going around the track and personnel are there to let fans in within the next hour.

What on earth?


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Report as of a few minutes is that chairman of the AGP says the race is definitely going ahead.

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The FIA can't even work out if teams are cheating or not so 🤷‍♀️


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Report as of a few minutes is that chairman of the AGP says the race is definitely going ahead.


Absolutely crazy.


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There are tweets from our domestic, support categories that say they are still happening. All track staff have been told to attend.

If f1 is cancelled, at least we know that our local citizens aren’t worth protecting.


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Andrew Benson (BBC) reporting that Seb and Kimi have flown home. Also that the race is ‘still cancelled’ but there are ‘legal complications’

Source for this: https://twitter.com/f1broadcasting/stat ... 81440?s=21

Sounds like teams are starting to arrange flights home: https://twitter.com/lukesmithf1/status/ ... 50212?s=21


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So we have at least 2 drivers having already flown home, the teams preparing to pack up their equipment - but the organisers saying everything going on as normal. Simple.


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Spectators will not be allowed in. Victorian premier Daniel Andrews told 7News Sydney: “On public health grounds, there will be no spectators at the grand prix this weekend if a race actually happens at all. That is a matter for them and they will make announcements very soon.”


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The original BBC News item on its website stating that two officials had said that the GP was cancelled has disappeared off their website.

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The original BBC News item on its website stating that two officials had said that the GP was cancelled has disappeared off their website.

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Took less than a minute to find: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/51849163


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Fia spokesman. “For us to cancel it on our own would require less than 12 cars to be available. But other than that or from the local authourities the FIA cannot cancel because there are too many commercial agreements that in cancelling the liability would come back to us”


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If there is a race there will be no Vettel or Raikkonen that we know of.


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First of all i'm really surprised Ferrari & Alpha allowed Vettel & Raikkonen to leave the circuit until everything was official if that is indeed the case.

Looking at the telecast now the host broadcaster is is still plugging the race this weekend. They're saying the teams are meeting but only in regard to the Ferrari engine issue.

Some say race is cancelled, some say not. Some say crowds will be removed, others say they've heard nothing about it.

Looks to be a total stuff up.

To put an F1 angle on an old colloquialism " There's nothing so calamitous in F1 that the ruling bodies couldn't make any worse".

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""First of all i'm really surprised Ferrari & Alpha allowed Vettel & Raikkonen to leave the circuit until everything was official if that is indeed the case.""

if it's true, all the teams can do, is fire them. seriously doubt if either one really cares if they get fired. within days the season is going to be reduced drastically anyway


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So here I am giving updates on what I’m seeing on the tv & it’s a damn replay of yesterday’s telecast.

Host broadcaster today saying its highly unlikely the event will go ahead. But a lot of misinformation floating around. Gates are closed to public. No spectators allowed. Scheduled on track action of all categories delayed.

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It’s official. Australian GP has been cancelled.


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It’s been officially cancelled according to their Facebook page


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You all thought Indianapolis 2005 was a joke.


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It's all down to money; hosting fees, spectator refunds, TV rights etc. F1/FIA wanted Victoria state to cancel it and Victoria State wanted F1 to cancel it. F1/FIA had to buckle in the end


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So, when does Bahrain get cancelled?


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FIA website overloaded.

Fia.com Status
Is fia.com down right now?
It's not just you! fia.com is down.


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Once the first car goes out for P1. Australia will likely pay them to make a bigger mess than we have.


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Not a great fan of this track but very unfortunate that the race got cancelled. I guess the Mclaren employee tested positive scared them off x( I hope Bahrain race goes on.

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On a touch of personal irony, i've been stuck at home with the flu since Wednesday & my employer is refusing to allow me to return to work until i've been tested & cleared of Carona virus (which in itself is a major story). This year would've been the first year since I can remember where I would've been able to watch the Friday sessions live. Such a downer.

On the plus side though, for the first time in 12 days I was able to wander into my local supermarket get my hands on a luxurious 24 pack of 3 ply dunny roll so, yeah, silver linings & all that.

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According to the BBC it was all a power play between F1, Liberty, etc... and the rest - so the people who said "money" were correct ;

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/51849163

I am rather disgusted that spectators were allowed to travel to the circuit under the illusion that FP1 and FP2 were going ahead - they were used by the financially interested parties.


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Greenman wrote:
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According to the BBC it was all a power play between F1, Liberty, etc... and the rest - so the people who said "money" were correct ;

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/51849163

I am rather disgusted that spectators were allowed to travel to the circuit under the illusion that FP1 and FP2 were going ahead - they were used by the financially interested parties.


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It was only ever about money - surely no one ever though otherwise? But it's not necessarily about greed. The money involved is significant. Lost revenue has knock on effects and I'm guessing not many of the contracts involved will have anything in to cover this and neither will insurance. Everyone from the food stall vendors up to those paying the license fee and holding TV rights.

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Greenman wrote:
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According to the BBC it was all a power play between F1, Liberty, etc... and the rest - so the people who said "money" were correct ;

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/51849163

I am rather disgusted that spectators were allowed to travel to the circuit under the illusion that FP1 and FP2 were going ahead - they were used by the financially interested parties.


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It was only ever about money - surely no one ever though otherwise? But it's not necessarily about greed. The money involved is significant. Lost revenue has knock on effects and I'm guessing not many of the contracts involved will have anything in to cover this and neither will insurance. Everyone from the food stall vendors up to those paying the license fee and holding TV rights.


Surely this'd all be covered under a force majeure claus though wouldn't it?

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There are ALWAYS arguments to be had between force majeure clauses, "Acts of God" clauses and exclusion/insurance clauses - lawyers like it that way.

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You all thought Indianapolis 2005 was a joke.

Wasn't it?

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On a touch of personal irony, i've been stuck at home with the flu since Wednesday & my employer is refusing to allow me to return to work until i've been tested & cleared of Carona virus (which in itself is a major story). This year would've been the first year since I can remember where I would've been able to watch the Friday sessions live. Such a downer.

On the plus side though, for the first time in 12 days I was able to wander into my local supermarket get my hands on a luxurious 24 pack of 3 ply dunny roll so, yeah, silver linings & all that.

What is it with people running out to buy toilet paper? :lol:

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Jezza13 wrote:
On a touch of personal irony, i've been stuck at home with the flu since Wednesday & my employer is refusing to allow me to return to work until i've been tested & cleared of Carona virus (which in itself is a major story). This year would've been the first year since I can remember where I would've been able to watch the Friday sessions live. Such a downer.

On the plus side though, for the first time in 12 days I was able to wander into my local supermarket get my hands on a luxurious 24 pack of 3 ply dunny roll so, yeah, silver linings & all that.

What is it with people running out to buy toilet paper? :lol:

Well, people aren't panic buying because they think the world is going to end yet and there are always plenty of options on food even if it's not your favourite. It would take a lot to completely empty a supermarket of food - but toilet roll only has a limited supply due to the space it takes up, so supermarkets can't afford to overstock because they would be wasting money on storage. The space issue also causes a restock issue, combined with the fact the toilet roll companies don't want to pay for a bunch of overtime now and then have a few weeks of unproductive work because suddenly no one can buy because everyone is playing toilet roll Minecraft in their living room.

So while there are more important things for survival than toilet roll, at the moment people aren't feeling like we are about to turn to Mad Max. However there are stages between civilisation and Mad Max, and one of those steps is when you suddenly have to find an alternative to what you would usually use toilet paper for - and if you run out of toilet paper then you get to that stage sooner than you would like - so everyone is trying to make sure they don't run out, or have to go on a 2 week quest to find somewhere that has toilet paper in stock.

It's not a survival panic buying - it's a maintaining the modern comforts panic buying.

However, Japan had it's toilet roll rush 2 weeks ago and I have started to see it on the shelves in the hardware stores now (supermarkets don't really sell it there)


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Greenman wrote:
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According to the BBC it was all a power play between F1, Liberty, etc... and the rest - so the people who said "money" were correct ;

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/51849163

I am rather disgusted that spectators were allowed to travel to the circuit under the illusion that FP1 and FP2 were going ahead - they were used by the financially interested parties.


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Yeah I heard it was a stand off between F1 and the circuit, basically whoever cancelled the event then had to foot the bill that being the sanctioning fee.

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pokerman wrote:
Jezza13 wrote:
On a touch of personal irony, i've been stuck at home with the flu since Wednesday & my employer is refusing to allow me to return to work until i've been tested & cleared of Carona virus (which in itself is a major story). This year would've been the first year since I can remember where I would've been able to watch the Friday sessions live. Such a downer.

On the plus side though, for the first time in 12 days I was able to wander into my local supermarket get my hands on a luxurious 24 pack of 3 ply dunny roll so, yeah, silver linings & all that.

What is it with people running out to buy toilet paper? :lol:

Well, people aren't panic buying because they think the world is going to end yet and there are always plenty of options on food even if it's not your favourite. It would take a lot to completely empty a supermarket of food - but toilet roll only has a limited supply due to the space it takes up, so supermarkets can't afford to overstock because they would be wasting money on storage. The space issue also causes a restock issue, combined with the fact the toilet roll companies don't want to pay for a bunch of overtime now and then have a few weeks of unproductive work because suddenly no one can buy because everyone is playing toilet roll Minecraft in their living room.

So while there are more important things for survival than toilet roll, at the moment people aren't feeling like we are about to turn to Mad Max. However there are stages between civilisation and Mad Max, and one of those steps is when you suddenly have to find an alternative to what you would usually use toilet paper for - and if you run out of toilet paper then you get to that stage sooner than you would like - so everyone is trying to make sure they don't run out, or have to go on a 2 week quest to find somewhere that has toilet paper in stock.

It's not a survival panic buying - it's a maintaining the modern comforts panic buying.

However, Japan had it's toilet roll rush 2 weeks ago and I have started to see it on the shelves in the hardware stores now (supermarkets don't really sell it there)


Well Japan have a different solution to that, right?


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pokerman wrote:
Jezza13 wrote:
On a touch of personal irony, i've been stuck at home with the flu since Wednesday & my employer is refusing to allow me to return to work until i've been tested & cleared of Carona virus (which in itself is a major story). This year would've been the first year since I can remember where I would've been able to watch the Friday sessions live. Such a downer.

On the plus side though, for the first time in 12 days I was able to wander into my local supermarket get my hands on a luxurious 24 pack of 3 ply dunny roll so, yeah, silver linings & all that.

What is it with people running out to buy toilet paper? :lol:

Well, people aren't panic buying because they think the world is going to end yet and there are always plenty of options on food even if it's not your favourite. It would take a lot to completely empty a supermarket of food - but toilet roll only has a limited supply due to the space it takes up, so supermarkets can't afford to overstock because they would be wasting money on storage. The space issue also causes a restock issue, combined with the fact the toilet roll companies don't want to pay for a bunch of overtime now and then have a few weeks of unproductive work because suddenly no one can buy because everyone is playing toilet roll Minecraft in their living room.

So while there are more important things for survival than toilet roll, at the moment people aren't feeling like we are about to turn to Mad Max. However there are stages between civilisation and Mad Max, and one of those steps is when you suddenly have to find an alternative to what you would usually use toilet paper for - and if you run out of toilet paper then you get to that stage sooner than you would like - so everyone is trying to make sure they don't run out, or have to go on a 2 week quest to find somewhere that has toilet paper in stock.

It's not a survival panic buying - it's a maintaining the modern comforts panic buying.

However, Japan had it's toilet roll rush 2 weeks ago and I have started to see it on the shelves in the hardware stores now (supermarkets don't really sell it there)

Thanks for the heads up, a lot of these same people however don't seem to have a problem dealing with dog faeces which would turn my stomach, strange world. :)

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pokerman wrote:
Jezza13 wrote:
On a touch of personal irony, i've been stuck at home with the flu since Wednesday & my employer is refusing to allow me to return to work until i've been tested & cleared of Carona virus (which in itself is a major story). This year would've been the first year since I can remember where I would've been able to watch the Friday sessions live. Such a downer.

On the plus side though, for the first time in 12 days I was able to wander into my local supermarket get my hands on a luxurious 24 pack of 3 ply dunny roll so, yeah, silver linings & all that.

What is it with people running out to buy toilet paper? :lol:

Well, people aren't panic buying because they think the world is going to end yet and there are always plenty of options on food even if it's not your favourite. It would take a lot to completely empty a supermarket of food - but toilet roll only has a limited supply due to the space it takes up, so supermarkets can't afford to overstock because they would be wasting money on storage. The space issue also causes a restock issue, combined with the fact the toilet roll companies don't want to pay for a bunch of overtime now and then have a few weeks of unproductive work because suddenly no one can buy because everyone is playing toilet roll Minecraft in their living room.

So while there are more important things for survival than toilet roll, at the moment people aren't feeling like we are about to turn to Mad Max. However there are stages between civilisation and Mad Max, and one of those steps is when you suddenly have to find an alternative to what you would usually use toilet paper for - and if you run out of toilet paper then you get to that stage sooner than you would like - so everyone is trying to make sure they don't run out, or have to go on a 2 week quest to find somewhere that has toilet paper in stock.

It's not a survival panic buying - it's a maintaining the modern comforts panic buying.

However, Japan had it's toilet roll rush 2 weeks ago and I have started to see it on the shelves in the hardware stores now (supermarkets don't really sell it there)


Well Japan have a different solution to that, right?

Different types of toilet?

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