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 Post subject: P-F1 Team Pick 2020
PostPosted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 12:26 pm 
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*** Latest news: March 13th ***

The Australian GP has now been officially cancelled, so Round 1 of Team Pick 2020 (and possibly several others - tbc) will not take place.

P-F1 Team Pick 2020 game

Back for its second year, this is a game for F1 experts, where you need knowledge of the whole grid, not just the top finishers. You have to predict the positions each of the 10 teams' 2 cars will finish in, but without specifying drivers. You don't forecast exact finishing positions though, you just choose from groups of possible positions.
So you make two predictions per team, the possibilities for each are:

1 - win
p - podium (2nd or 3rd)
6 - top 6 (4th - 6th)
10 - top 10 (7th - 10th)
14 - top 14 (11th - 14th) (* New for 2020 *)
f - classified finish or non-finish outside the top 14
nf - non-finish, (i.e. retirement, disqualification, non-starter or unclassified finish completing less than 90% of race distance)

Each correct prediction scores 1pt. If both predictions for a team are correct, you score 3pts.

(* New for 2020 *) You also predict which team will get the Fastest Lap in the race by entering fl. You can only enter fl for one team. For this team if you get all 3 predictions right you score 5pts; with 2 right you get 3pts; with 1 right you get 1pt.

Example prediction

Australian GP:

Mercedes - 1 , p , fl
Ferrari - p , 6
Red Bull - p , nf
Mclaren - 6 , 14
Renault - 10 , 10
AlphaTauri - 14 , f
Racing Point - 10 , f
Alfa Romeo - 10 , f
Haas - 14 , f
Williams - 14 , nf

NB: You can make more or fewer predictions than would be realistic for each prediction type: I.e. more than 1 team to win the race; or as above, 3 predictions for the 2 podium places.

In above example: if the Mercedes drivers finish 1-2 or 1-3 you get 3pts for the team (whichever driver wins). If they finish 2-3 or 1-4 you only get 1pt. If they get the fastest lap too you get an extra 2pts. However if they get fastest lap but neither driver finishes in the top 3 you only get 1pt.

Please separate each team's picks with a space or comma. Also it would help speed the scoring if you keep the teams in 2019 Constructors pts order as above.

The cut-off time for entries for each GP is the start of FP3. Entries and changes are still allowed until 'on the hour' ten minutes before race start, BUT entries received or changed after the start of FP3 are penalised of 50% of their score. This is rounded down, so 20 or 21 pts would be reduced to 10.

The results will normally be posted several hours after each race finishes - and a bit later still for races outside Europe.

The game will run for each GP, with points added towards the final Championship result at season's end. There will be prizes for the overall podium finishers; most wins; most podiums; largest race winning margin, and highest race winning score.

The game starts with the 2020 Australian GP, but there's no penalty for missing rounds so new entrants are welcome at any time.

Good luck! :)


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 Post subject: Re: P-F1 Team Pick 2020
PostPosted: Fri Feb 28, 2020 8:10 am 
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Alright, I’m in


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 Post subject: Re: P-F1 Team Pick 2020
PostPosted: Fri Feb 28, 2020 2:08 pm 
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I was terrible last year, but sure - why not. The only way forward is up!

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 Post subject: Re: P-F1 Team Pick 2020
PostPosted: Fri Feb 28, 2020 2:32 pm 
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This was a fun one last year, and I'm looking to do better this time. I'm in!

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 Post subject: Re: P-F1 Team Pick 2020
PostPosted: Sat Feb 29, 2020 2:10 pm 
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I'll take part again, it was a fun game last year. Even if I was utterly woeful!

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 Post subject: Re: P-F1 Team Pick 2020
PostPosted: Mon Mar 02, 2020 12:51 pm 
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Glad to see this back for another year.

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 Post subject: Re: P-F1 Team Pick 2020
PostPosted: Sat Mar 07, 2020 1:39 am 
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Hi Tim and everyone,

I would like to join if you'll have me. Somebody has to be last and it'll probably be me, so hopefully that is reason enough to let me in! :lol: :)

I like how this game is split into positional categories and teams; might give me a chance to predict some teams correctly at least. Those agonising decisions such as trying to account for reliability (ie. Are the top 6 all gonna finish, or do you have to put who you think would usually finish 7th into 6th etc.) are still important, but there still is a little bit of leeway when accounting for reliability and other factors.

Thanks, Adro783


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 Post subject: Re: P-F1 Team Pick 2020
PostPosted: Mon Mar 09, 2020 10:43 am 
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Adro783 wrote:
Hi Tim and everyone,

I would like to join if you'll have me. Somebody has to be last and it'll probably be me, so hopefully that is reason enough to let me in! :lol: :)

I like how this game is split into positional categories and teams; might give me a chance to predict some teams correctly at least. Those agonising decisions such as trying to account for reliability (ie. Are the top 6 all gonna finish, or do you have to put who you think would usually finish 7th into 6th etc.) are still important, but there still is a little bit of leeway when accounting for reliability and other factors.

Thanks, Adro783


Good to have you aboard! Yes, I share your frustrations with picking drivers. In forecasting (say) the top 10 I always seemed to pick the wrong Renault or Racing Pt driver to finish! Since reliability is really a team issue it seemed making the picks team- rather than driver-specific might eliminate some of the luck involved with DNFs.


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 Post subject: Re: P-F1 Team Pick 2020
PostPosted: Mon Mar 09, 2020 3:40 pm 
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Mercedes - 1 , p , fl
Ferrari - 6 , 6
Red Bull - p , 6
Mclaren - 10 , 10
Renault - 14 , 14
AlphaTauri - 14 , f
Racing Point - 10 , f
Alfa Romeo - nf , f
Haas - 10 , nf
Williams - 14 , f


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 Post subject: Re: P-F1 Team Pick 2020
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Australia

Mercedes 1 P
Ferrari 6 6
Red Bull P 6
McLaren 10 10
Renault 10 14
Racing Point 10 NF
Alfa Romeo 14 F
AlphaTauri 14 14
Haas F NF
Williams F F

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 Post subject: Re: P-F1 Team Pick 2020
PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2020 9:52 am 
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Round 1 - Australia

Mercedes - 1 , p , fl
Ferrari - 6 , 6
Red Bull - p , 6
Mclaren - 10 , 14
Renault - 10 , 14
AlphaTauri - 14 , f
Racing Point - 10 , 10
Alfa Romeo - 14 , f
Haas - f , nf
Williams - f , nf


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 Post subject: Re: P-F1 Team Pick 2020
PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2020 10:54 am 
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Aus GP
Mercedes - NF, NF
Ferrari - NF, NF
Red Bull - NF, NF
Mclaren - NF, NF
Renault - NF, NF
AlphaTauri - NF, NF
Racing Point - NF, NF
Alfa Romeo - NF, NF
Haas - NF, NF
Williams - NF, NF


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 Post subject: Re: P-F1 Team Pick 2020
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Mercedes - 1 , p , fl
Ferrari - 6 , 6
Red Bull - p , 6
Mclaren - nf, nf
Renault - 10 , 10
AlphaTauri - 14 , 14
Racing Point - 10 , 10
Alfa Romeo - f , 14
Haas - 14 , nf
Williams - f, f

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